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Jon Ison

posted on 5/12/04 at 04:05 PM Reply With Quote
Virus protection

I'm not and will never be a pc expert, what do you guys recomend for virus protection ?? I've got AVG and spybot running and updated reg at the mo but the last couple of days iv'e been inundated with different virus's, AVG gets them all and clears them off but the buggers seem to re apear and i have to scan n get rid of them all again,

what u recomend.






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scoobyis2cool

posted on 5/12/04 at 04:09 PM Reply With Quote
I've got Norton and that seems to do a pretty good job, my PC seems to be fairly clean at the moment

Pete





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bob

posted on 5/12/04 at 04:29 PM Reply With Quote
jon

I'm running norton 04 and it seems to sort everything thrown at the pc.

I got mine on ebay at a good price too.

It did conflict with avg though so the frre stuff had to go






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Jon Ison

posted on 5/12/04 at 04:42 PM Reply With Quote
If we use Norton do you get updates once youv'e bought it ?






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Mr G

posted on 5/12/04 at 04:47 PM Reply With Quote
I use AVG along with

AD-AWARE
Spybot Search & Destroy
Computercops
Hijack This

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MikeRJ

posted on 5/12/04 at 05:20 PM Reply With Quote
I've got no AV software installed at all. I just make sure I do regular windows updates, don't use Outlook or IE and do use common sense with regard to attachments. Worst I ever had was a browser hijack, and that was before I dumped IE.

I've used the online free scanner at http://uk.trendmicro-europe.com/enterprise/products/housecall_launch.php a couple of times though, just to make sure.


[Edited on 5/12/04 by MikeRJ]

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JoelP

posted on 5/12/04 at 05:55 PM Reply With Quote
ive got avg installed but rarely use it. i never seem to get trouble nowadays, mainly i think cos i dont go to unknown sites and delete all mail where i dont know the sender, and dont open attachments even if i do...






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Peteff

posted on 5/12/04 at 06:29 PM Reply With Quote
I use the pandasoft scanner

It gets stuff that avg doesn't consider worthwhile.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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bob

posted on 5/12/04 at 07:26 PM Reply With Quote
Jon

With norton once you have registered it online you get the updates for the 1st year or until your expiry date then you have to pay 20/30 quid or something.
Not really sure how much.






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Mk-Ninja

posted on 5/12/04 at 07:59 PM Reply With Quote
Im using Trend Micro, easy to use and setup. Think its about £20 per year after trial period, and I get updates most days, which is quite reassuring.

Gordon





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krlthms

posted on 5/12/04 at 08:00 PM Reply With Quote
I would add a zone labs fire wall (it is free); and not use IE (Mozilla Firefox is very good and free). Absolutely about updating MS Windows (and office) regularly (best to set this up to do automatically). Use Lavasoft Adaware (also free) to clean all the spyware programs (I do this at least weekly after updating the definetions file). It is great if you have a spam filter on your e-mail program as it appears nowadays that most viruses are carried by spam, rather than like the old days when viruses were usually delivered inadvertantly from someone you know.
Best KT

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carcentric

posted on 5/12/04 at 08:12 PM Reply With Quote
anybody used . . . . ?

I've had subscriptions to McAfee virus and firewall for several years (no problems, but fairly expensive). We just bought new Dells with XP(SP2) and Norton (free for 90 days, but after that we'll need something new).

A computer store guy with nothing to gain recommended PC-cillin by Trend Micro. Anybody used it? The thing I like about PC-cillin is that they have a 3-computer package price for home networks.





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CairB

posted on 5/12/04 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
A computer store guy with nothing to gain recommended PC-cillin by Trend Micro. Anybody used it? The thing I like about PC-cillin is that they have a 3-computer package price for home networks.


I use Trend, as you say regular updates, but who generates the viri in the first place? I remember looking through Norton's offering back in around '94 and they were listing viruses in their database with the status of 'not released yet'

After upgrading my copy of PcCillin that I used on '98 I installed XP pro and was annoyed to discover that the license was for one AV per machine per operating system. I then bought the Internet Security version. This was at the same time as the 2 for one deal but that was for USA only I must look into the deal you mention as my version is up for renewal. I just hope it stretches over the pond

Cheers,

Colin

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JoelP

posted on 5/12/04 at 09:46 PM Reply With Quote
chrisw recommended a remote hardware firewall as the best form as defence. cant remember the details, and i didnt understand it anyway...






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carcentric

posted on 6/12/04 at 05:09 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CairB
quote:
. . . I must look into the deal you mention as my version is up for renewal. I just hope it stretches over the pond
Colin


It's called Home Security Pack and it's at:
http://www.trendmicro.com/en/home/us/personal.htm

[Edited on 6/12/04 by carcentric]





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Noodle

posted on 6/12/04 at 11:44 AM Reply With Quote
There's a Russian one that used to be free. You can still download for free. I'm not recommending it, but it may help someone....

http://www.sald.com/

Cheers,

Neil.





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Hellfire

posted on 6/12/04 at 12:25 PM Reply With Quote
I use PC-Cillin AV2002 (I or 'it' updates at least once per day), also Ad-aware and hijackthis. Can't say I've had a problem so far... touch wood!






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carcentric

posted on 6/12/04 at 08:56 PM Reply With Quote
ads

I used Ad-Subtract (available through McAfee) when I ran WinME, and it worked fine, but I now have XP (service pack 2) and its built-in popup blocker seems to be doing the trick.





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phelpsa

posted on 7/12/04 at 01:56 PM Reply With Quote
At home we have the full mcafee security centre. On my laptop I have Adaware SE and Sophos (which is updateed by the schools network).

This works well.

Adam






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ceebmoj

posted on 7/12/04 at 02:53 PM Reply With Quote
I know this might seem a bit radical to some but have you considered a life with out Microsoft. It may seem daunting at first shifting to another OS but it is worth the switch you can get the soft where for free and it is secure. I for one believe that if you have to run 5 or 6 other apps on top of the OS to keep you secure then something was done very wrong when they where writing the OS.

Unix/Linux (unfortunately I can never remember witch is witch) and Solaris can be downloaded for free, or a nice retail box with proper paper instructions and a nice installer can be bourt for about £30 witch may well be bundled with star office.

All of you thinking what about compatibility / how will I open my old files. Don’t you can put a windows cd or floppy in to your machine and it will read it and write it in a way in witch other windows boxes can. Even if you have apps witch run in windows you can uses something like wine to emulate you windows environment to run these programs.

The main benefits are however I have only ever once crashed a PC running Unix / Solaris and you can get free CFD solves and other very advanced bits of soft where for free from the web. There lots of other benefits as well.

If you are wored about it being hard to use don’t my gran has Solaris running on her desk top and after a day she decided she liked it better and I get less phone calses asking for stuff fixed.

Blake

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David Jenkins

posted on 7/12/04 at 02:55 PM Reply With Quote
I rarely use Windoze now - but I try not too shout too loud 'cos I'm starting to sound like a geeky evangelist!


David






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DaveFJ

posted on 7/12/04 at 04:16 PM Reply With Quote
I understand that most people will want to stick with windoze. however, I would recommend using Mozilla firefox for web browsing whenever possible (you will still need IE for some sites)

I would also highly recommend a firewall and up to date Av scanner - and also a spyware tool of some sort.

personal preference is for:

Zonelabs free firewall - it's pretty simple for the layman to setup and very effective.
A word of warning - the windows firewal;l built into SP2 is as much use as tits on a fish, switch it off and get something better!


Norton AV 2004 Pro (comes with a 2 PC license) set to auto update regularly - would only use the AV stuff though, the other security and system maintenance bits are awful.

Lavasoft ad-aware - again the free version works very well.

providing you use all 3 and keep them up to date you should be fairly safe.

A note on the hardware firewalls that are now widely available; most of the ones I have seen in use have not been configured correctly and are therefore not doing anything worthwhile, only rely on one of these if you know what you are doing

A final word on Microsoft updates , ARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
(sorry rorty it deserved the extra exclamation marks)
I would recommend that you NEVER leave you PC to update automatically. instead try to get into the habit of checking once a fortnight for new updates (MS rarely release updates more than once a month anyway) and then NEVER install any until they have been available for at least a week. then as a final check before going ahead with it - do a quick search on the net for known problems with the update. I know this is a pain in the proverbial but it could save you a lot of tears.





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