andkilde
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| posted on 8/7/05 at 01:50 PM |
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I say take the gloves off and fight them where they live.
The examples are out there, the Isrealis do it with the Mossad, the Brits with the SAS.
It's a question of priorities and integrity -- the Neo-Conservatives have co-opted the war on terror and made the problem worse.
Instead of scouring the hills and mountains in Afghanistan and Pakistan, mopping up terror training camps in Southeast Asia and generally ridding the
earth of these idiots they go off on a ridiculous tangent wasting hundreds of billions of dollars and countless lives on yet another
"crusade" in the middle-east.
Saddam, in spite of being a murderous despot or perhaps because of that fact, was the leader of a moderate muslim country. Look at it now -- every
underemployed whackjob muslim extremist crackpot in the world now has a massive, live-fire training camp.
I say pull the troops out -- give them comprehensive re-training and start sending them all back out in groups of ten or twelve with a photograph of
their objective in their vest pocket and enough firepower and technology to make it happen -- no borders, no rules, no politics, no safe corner.
Cheers, Ted
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pbura
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| posted on 8/7/05 at 02:51 PM |
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However gratifying nuking the terrorist savages would be (and that was my vote), in reality they are scattered renegades and so are non-nukeable.
So I'll have to amend to option 3. Got to admit that I'm glad my country still has the death penalty for dealing with [edit] first-degree
murderers*.
* a more precise term than the original "mad dogs".
[Edited on 8/7/05 by pbura]
Pete
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ethomas
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| posted on 8/7/05 at 03:18 PM |
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Fighting for peace is like f*cking for virginity 
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The Shootist
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| posted on 8/7/05 at 05:56 PM |
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Some random thoughts.......
I have trouble linking all this together, but see if you can wrap your mind around my concept.......
This "Holy War" has evolved from a religious action to a business. Every year thousands of supporters give millions of dollars to Osama
and his minions. You can bet after yesterdays blatant attack, contributions have spiked. Britain was victom to a "Fund Raiser". Beats
selling candy bars. 
The leaders are on a power trip. Imagine the rush you get if your followers WORSHIP you. They will do anything you say, including suicide, because you
tell them it will get them into heaven.
The poor foot soldiers have it worst. You come from a 3rd world country, have no education, and no future. You cannot even read your own bible to find
that the war you fight is wrong and your leaders are lying to you. You are evil and unworthy, BUT you can still get to heaven. You must suicide, but
the group promises to give your familly money, and you be free of this earth and go to heaven.
Do you really think Bin Ladin is hiding in a mud hut in the hills of Afganistan? He poses in from of a tarp or blanket to hide his living conditions,
with a rifle leaning at the ready nearby. But look, his clothes are clean, he has bathed. You cannot live hiding in a hut and be this way. Bin Ladin
has kidney disease. Do you think he has a dialysis machine in a back-pack? NO! He hides his surroundings because he lives in luxury while he sends
boys to die, and rakes in the cash to continue his little operation. Bin Ladin could be running his war from a beach resort for all the world
knows.
The people from this region need education. If they can read they will know what Bin Ladin does is against Islam. This will take time.
For now force is the only language these cultures understand. They must be hit and hit hard. It MUST become too expensive in both money and manpower
to conduct these terror operations. Funding Must be CUT OFF!
Our western cultures have many Muslims living happily among us, and we can teach the rest of the world that we are not evil, but this will take
time.
We must stand together. If you see something wrong report it. The best way to find these animal hiding among us is to know our neighbors. The weird
dark skinned guy next door may be a terrorist, or he may just be shy. As a group we can overcome any obstacle, but as individuals we connot stand.
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Cita
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| posted on 8/7/05 at 05:58 PM |
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Was on the news this morning....not every muslim is a terrorist,but most terrorists are muslims!
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clbarclay
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| posted on 8/7/05 at 07:13 PM |
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Another quote to think about.
"I'm a patriot, your a freedom fighter and they are terrorists."
Its all the same difference.
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Benzine
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| posted on 9/7/05 at 12:18 AM |
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Patriotism is poo. Last time I checked we live on a round world
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Noodle
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| posted on 9/7/05 at 07:42 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
Patriotism is poo. Last time I checked we live on a round world
Wow! My world's spherical! 
Neil.
Your sort make me sick
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steve_gus
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| posted on 13/7/05 at 09:30 PM |
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interersting thread.
a week on, we find that the people that did this were 'ordinary born in britain' people by all accounts. They also blew themselves up with
the bombs.
How do you vote on that one?
I think that hating muslims would be a BIG mistake as thats just want the assholes guiding these puppets want. a civil war.
find them, and stick em in prison for life. they want death, they see it as glory. being shaged in the butt by bubba twice a night wont be quite the
same.
atb
steve
ps
if the justification is that they kill us as we invade their country, and kill their people (colateral damage), then this takes some explaining
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4678207.stm
[Edited on 13/7/05 by steve_gus]
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