JoelP
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 10:05 PM |
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Trade waste
here's one for you. Ive got a van stacked to the roof with trade rubbish. I want to take it to the local council weigh place and im quite happy
paying to get rid. However, you need a waste carriage license to move trade waste which i dont have. Does anyone know if they need details of your
license to give you a waste transfer notice?!
I have moral objections to paying £136 for permission to carry my waste in my van, when im paying to get rid of it anyway.
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blakep82
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 10:07 PM |
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they're pushing folk toward fly tipping  its free!
erm, have you got friendly neighbours?
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JoelP
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 10:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
they're pushing folk toward fly tipping its free!
erm, have you got friendly neighbours?
when i read about an old railway cutting thats gradually getting land filled, it does get tempting to add a little to the pile!
And i already top up the neighbours bins on an evening 
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blakep82
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 10:11 PM |
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ah, i'm all out of ideas then...
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owelly
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 10:13 PM |
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If you want to do things properly, I can advise you on what to do and who to speak to. But it costs money. My dvise doesn't cost money but to
register with the local authority does and so does setting-up a contract with a licensed carrier.
What most folks do in your position, where you don't have a skip-load every other day, is to take it down the tip in smallish loads.
Our local waste transfer site lets vans and trailers in at certain times of the day. That way they can see who is bringing what and how much. It also
goes some way to stopping digruntled traders from fly tipping.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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adithorp
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 10:14 PM |
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You only need a waste carriers licence if it's controled waste. ie. oil,tyres,batterys.
adrian
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JoelP
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 10:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
You only need a waste carriers licence if it's controled waste. ie. oil,tyres,batterys.
adrian
I welcome disagreement, but im fairly sure you are wrong there!
I previously had contracted waste collections but in the interest of, basically, earning more money, im taking over that aspect of things. At peak it
will be two scrap kitchens a week plus packaging of the new one, so a little more than i can blag at the council depot as domestic. I did manage to
dump 5 van fulls in bolton when i cleared a house up there, which was nice! But they told me not to come back 
All the metal goes to the scrap man, all cardboard to the paper place. Just leaves chipboard, rubble and plastics.
Its 10p a day for the bloody license!
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JoelP
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 10:23 PM |
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"Controlled Waste
Any waste subject to the provisions of the Control of Pollution Act 1974 (COPA, as amended) and the Environmental Protection Act (EPA). Controlled
wastes are: commercial and industrial waste (including construction and demolition waste); household waste. Agricultural and mining wastes are now
classified respectively as commercial and industrial waste and are therefore controlled. (Definition valid at November 2007)"
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omega0684
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 10:24 PM |
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y don't you take it in several trips with general household/garage clearout stuff, then when they ask you what you've got you just say its
garage rubbish 
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blakep82
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 10:26 PM |
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we hired a van to get rid of some stuff, our local tip turned us away, said they weren't licensed for vans on the site...
all seems fairly new (as far as i can tell, not being in a trade myself) or at least gathering steam...
write your concerns to the council? i'm sure you know enough other tradesmen in your area to get together and write in individually. get heard,
coz its not fair. same as fuel taxes, its strangling britain's industries
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Peteff
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| posted on 19/6/09 at 10:35 PM |
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I was told I had too much in my trailer once when we were doing the house, there was a bloke at the side of me with a Volvo estate stacked to the
gunwhales with bags of rubble and they never glanced at him. I told the jobsworth to b0110x and tipped it anyway.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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stevebubs
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| posted on 20/6/09 at 12:39 AM |
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chipboard, rubble and plastics
Why not start doing driveway extensions in addition to kitchens....appears you will have plenty of hardcore....
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LBMEFM
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| posted on 20/6/09 at 01:58 AM |
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If you go to your local tip and explain that you have a van that contains rubbish from you own property, not trade waste, you are allowed to dispose
of it. They may ask you to fill in a form with your name, address and van registration number. But apart from that you should not have a problem, if
you do go along to another town, they might be more friendly there. Alternatively look in your local newspaper you will see "man and van"
or "rubbish cleared" ads, I use these all the time in the trade, they take my rubbish away and clear up for less than the price of a skip.
If it is genuine trade waste, ie waste from the work you carry out, you add this cost to the clients invoice. Barry
[Edited on 20/6/09 by LBMEFM]
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NS Dev
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| posted on 20/6/09 at 07:57 AM |
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do you have a largish trailer, if not, get one, not expensive.
Then you can stack up a fair pile of rubble and find a friendly local farmer, most of them will take it off your hands gladly for filling in gateways
etc.
I'm guessing the rubble is the tricky bit.
Chipboard is trickier, but worth a scout around for a recycler, we send all wood of any sort for recycling at work, no payment but its a free skip.
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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adithorp
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| posted on 20/6/09 at 08:18 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
"Controlled Waste
Any waste subject to the provisions of the Control of Pollution Act 1974 (COPA, as amended) and the Environmental Protection Act (EPA). Controlled
wastes are: commercial and industrial waste (including construction and demolition waste); household waste. Agricultural and mining wastes are now
classified respectively as commercial and industrial waste and are therefore controlled. (Definition valid at November 2007)"
I stand corrected! Personally I'd pay up and stick an "enviromental charge" on the bills. Use it to your advantage and make a point
of being a responsible trader if it's questioned. That's what we do and people are OK with it. Are you registered as a waste producer?
adrian
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Steve G
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| posted on 20/6/09 at 08:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
Its 10p a day for the bloody license!
Coooorrrr - thats a whole £36.50 per year............ and as a legitimate business expense, can be duducted from your gross profit when you do your
accounts.
Is it worth the hastle of not getting one to save £30 per year?
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blakep82
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| posted on 20/6/09 at 10:01 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve G
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
Its 10p a day for the bloody license!
Coooorrrr - thats a whole £36.50 per year............ and as a legitimate business expense, can be duducted from your gross profit when you do your
accounts.
Is it worth the hastle of not getting one to save £30 per year?
ha ha, yeah, that really puts it into perspective. increase your prices by £1 and you're done
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JoelP
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| posted on 20/6/09 at 02:02 PM |
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well i suppose so, but its a 3 year license so you have to stump up £136 for nothing. Just bugs me!
Big trailer is the solution i plan on using, i have wheels and suspension in the garage (under a pile of cardboard ) and lots of spare metal.
Currently filling the spare merc, but its now full, hence the original question!
Its getting a bit daft nowadays, even plasterboard counts as hazardous waste.
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JoelP
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| posted on 24/6/09 at 09:39 PM |
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well FWIW i got bent over for £154 for the bloody license, and they never even mentioned it at the tip
Took over an hour to empty the van 840kgs
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RoadkillUK
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| posted on 24/6/09 at 09:56 PM |
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You could have got a pot bellied stove for that I believe that even chipboard burns well in them.
Roadkill - Lee
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eccsmk
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| posted on 24/6/09 at 10:13 PM |
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i may or may not know of someone who
buys a cheapo car i.e. donor sierra
fills it to the top with every single piece of rubbish they have
then weighs it in
so they always earn a little bit of money for tidying the garage
simples
[Edited on 24/6/09 by eccsmk]
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JoelP
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| posted on 24/6/09 at 10:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RoadkillUK
You could have got a pot bellied stove for that I believe that even chipboard burns well in them.
ive tried burning it, wood just takes far too long to burn down! I really should get an open fire fitted.
Most of the weight was chipboard, like worktop offcuts, so maybe a big shredder is the way forward!
eccsmk, not sure the scrapyard would appreciate that on this scale!
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wilkingj
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| posted on 25/6/09 at 08:26 AM |
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Years ago before all this politically correct B*ll*x, my neighbour got rid of a complete Mini bodyshell via the council dustbin bags.
He just cut it into small pieces, and in 4 months it was all gone, collected by the dustbinmen, in his household waste.
Small, and Little and often.
However, there are moves to fit RFID chips, and video the bin as its being emptied.
Why else would they need cameras on the back of the Bin wagons, they arernt pointing in the right direction for reversing.
Check the underside of the top lip your bins, there is a recess in there with a Hexagonal hole in it. Thats where the RFID chip can be fitted (same
place for all so the Bin trucks can read them when the bin is tipped)
Talk about Big brother, and being just another council cash cow.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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woodster
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| posted on 25/6/09 at 09:24 AM |
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I have a pick up truck but i always go to the tip in the car a lot less agro ........ last time i took a bath still in one piece in a peugeot 107 they
even helped me out with it
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DarrenW
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| posted on 25/6/09 at 10:33 AM |
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If you have the trade waste licence does that mean you can simply go to any council tip with a works van to offload it? I didnt realise you could do
that. I just thought you had to get permits, which of course isnt easy for the volume most trade people want to offload.
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