Crazy Jay
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 posted on 4/1/05 at 02:09 PM |
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Who's the Fastest??
Ok here is a question i've wanted to know for ages!
Who has the fastest car on locostbuilders?? 
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phelpsa
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 02:26 PM |
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Hicost? His must be pretty quick.
Or a Busa engined car of somesort.
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Jasper
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 03:01 PM |
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Are we talking fastest to 60 or 100 or 130, or highest top speed?
Or, in my case, the fastest into a tree in 2005 
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Crazy Jay
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 03:12 PM |
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lol
Ok who is the fastest 0-60 and
who has the fastest Max
And also is the craziest to hav actually done it?? (All on private roads offcourse )
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ned
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 03:23 PM |
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0-60 could well be jim's r1 phoenix, very light and very sorted. has to be a bike engined car for weight i would recon.
top speed/acceleration over 100mph could be hicost with all that bhp and torque..
the search continues...
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 03:39 PM |
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Hicosts car is 415hp
a Busa as std is 210 or abouts?
thats about half power - even with the excess weight of the car engine, the bike would need some serious sorting?
atb
steve
[Edited on 4/1/05 by stephen_gusterson]
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tony9876
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 03:44 PM |
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Well i have never timed mine but it is a bored out 1400cc busa that makes about 250bhp and weighs 400kg.Although never timed it goes rather quickly as
a lot of porsches and ferraris found out at oultan park the other week
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 03:52 PM |
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up too a little above road legal speeds IMHO a BEC would do the biz, after that shere grunt would take over.
Check this old thread out......
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=1687
[Edited on 4/1/05 by Jon Ison]
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Crazy Jay
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 04:12 PM |
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Nice!!!
But wat if......U had a busa 450bhp turbo in the isonblade??
How much better does ur car handle than an Indy?? Wud u be talkin a few seconds round a decent track??
Cheers
[Edited on 4/1/05 by Crazy Jay]
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Wadders
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 04:14 PM |
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The only trouble with light cars and high revving engines is getting the power down to the road, My car feels quick, and is light, but last year i had
a go at the 0-60 street legal challenge at york dragway and my best time was 5.5 secs. i had a pair of ACB10's on the back, and by my last run
had let them down to 8psi but was still spinning in third gear, admittedly the track surface is very poor for traction at york and even the big boys
were struggling. The winner a 1300hp vauxhall victor did it in 3.2 secs. To put it in perpective the TVR 350's and tuscans were a shade slower
than mine, which was nice. On my last run there was a chevy V8 dutton Phaeton in the other lane, i beat him from the lights, but after about a hundred
yards he had toasted me, going on to do 0-60 in about 4.5secs and the quarter mile in under 13 secs. Great day out BTW, but also a good eye opener, i
now smile inwardly when anyone starts spouting 0-60 figures. On face value tho, my money would be on Hicosts car for straight line speed.
Originally posted by ned
0-60 could well be jim's r1 phoenix, very light and very sorted. has to be a bike engined car for weight i would recon.
the search continues...
Ned.
uot
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 04:16 PM |
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but what if u had an ex F1 fire nutter breathing motor in a locost, where does it end ?
BTW the GT1 is 6-7 secs a lap quicker at Donnington than the isonblade ever was and i'm 2-3 secs off the lap record for "road going bike
engined cars" with bog standard bike engines.
posting at same time as you Wadders, one big point in yr post,
wheel spin = not going forward
[Edited on 4/1/05 by Jon Ison]
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phelpsa
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 04:20 PM |
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But: Very fat tyres + Very light car = Unpredictable breakaways
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 04:26 PM |
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as above - you can only go as fast as friction will allow , and sometimes its possible to be quicker after that 60 mph is reached to 100 than it is
to 60 .
Big fat tyres on a light weight machine wouldnt be very helpful since theyll be made for a heavier car >400 kgs - traction will be aided by two
equal loaded tyres , and you must load the tyre according to its rating otherwise you wont work it enough , and basically be wasting it .
A nice tall diameter with a long contact patch is what you need . saying that - id be happy with 0-60 in 4 seconds - a couple of tenths either way
wouldnt really bother me .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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phelpsa
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 05:16 PM |
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Try starting in 2nd. I have seen a guy who hillclimbs a V8 westfield who starts in 2nd.
Adam
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Crazy Jay
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 05:54 PM |
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Holy poo Hicost!! Thats some machine u hav built!
Wud u ever look into 4wd? Dax do a 4x4 version of the rush, with cossie engine and gear.
How many MPG's do u get?
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carnut
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 06:01 PM |
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My indybird with slightly tuned engine (about 180bhp) must be up there as it weighs 370kg (a bit less in race trim). Also I can floor it in 1st
without lighting the wheels up even tho im running a 3.9 diff.
Expected time in the low 3's but id like to time it somehow!
carnut
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Crazy Jay
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 06:05 PM |
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yo carnut, wat do u max out at?
I'm running an R1, with hopefully a few mods but using a 3.14 diff
I'm hoping for around 4 - 4.5 secs to 60, altho this is prob a lil ambicious (prob spelt wrong)
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carnut
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 06:19 PM |
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max out at about 110. Im looking at fitting a taller diff to make it a bit more drivable on long journeys.
My main problem is: no matter how fast the car goes, you always get used to it and want more!
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phelpsa
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 06:36 PM |
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3.62 LSD!!!
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 08:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by carnut
max out at about 110. Im looking at fitting a taller diff to make it a bit more drivable on long journeys.
My main problem is: no matter how fast the car goes, you always get used to it and want more!
Yep carnut I can sympethise with you there and the other side of the equation is that if you want to go fast then there is NO substitue for qubes and
how much money you throw at it.
Way back in 1979 I home brewed an engine to go in my (late) teenage go faster mobile. By the time I had finish playing and sorting I had a car with a
genuine top end of 140mph. It was quicker than a 2.8 injection capri (blew the doors of one about midnight on my way home from my girlfriends -
thought I'd play with it cos they'd only just come out & I'd heard they were kwik). PC plod one day in his 2.8i granada couldnt
catch me between wellingborough & thrapston. Couldn't get close enough to do me for speeding so he did me for crossing a double white
line..
Anyway point is that I spent in total £1600 on machining and parts ALONE. Back in 1979 I could have bought a house in Rushden for that same amount.
That same house would now be worth approximately £250,000. Could you in all seriousness justify spending that much money today to put a go faster
engine into an Escort or Mondeo. I say that because I put mine into a MK1 Cortina.
Enjoy.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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phelpsa
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 08:15 PM |
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Hmm, I see what you mean. You must be running bloody high boost on that, loads of lag, lacking in low down torque but loads a bit higher up
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 09:54 PM |
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is that the ALS flames that burnt my eyebrows ??
2nd best noise too 12500rpm thats why i asked you to switch it on
posted on 31/12/04 at 10:58
get one........and some antilag electronics, pure music.......
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She lives
[Edited on 4/1/05 by Jon Ison]
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Wadders
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 11:47 PM |
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hope ur not easily dissapointed carnut
Expected time in the low 3's but id like to time it somehow!
carnut
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Simon
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| posted on 4/1/05 at 11:52 PM |
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"PC plod one day in his 2.8i granada couldnt catch me between wellingborough & thrapston"
Jollgreengiant
I wouldn't brag about that - I got nicked doing 116mph somewhere on a motorway in the uk by a gentlemen driving a 2.8i Grandad - he said
"We had trouble catching you"
I was driving a 1600cc hired cavalier
Anyway on topic - who really gives a toss. I'm building for fun - in the build itself and the driving bit after. If it upsets people
(performance wise) who've spent silly money on a silly car, all the better.
I'll get a cheap, reasonably well handling convertible that should, £ for £, represent excellent value for money!
Oh yeah - it should sound quite good too
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 4/1/05 by Simon]
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turbo time
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| posted on 5/1/05 at 07:42 AM |
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quote:
Yes 30psi, but I also have ALS, so I can spin the turbo to 8/10psi standing still, a bit harsh.
Yikes, sounds like a fun car, and looks great to boot!
Just wondering if you are referring to an ignition retard system, or just using Nitrous to spool it? If it's the former, then I'd imagine
you'd be replacing or rebuilding the hot side every 500 miles if you used it regularly, is this the case?
The best I can do (in my non-locost) is to feather it rapidly to build load (but I have an un-lightened flywheel), I will see 5 Psi or so w/o moving.
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