Hellfire
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 02:00 PM |
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159 MPH
159 mph and he gets let off Click
How can the judge call him the 'creme de la creme' of police drivers
Discuss
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colibriman
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 02:14 PM |
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he was also doing 84mph in a 30 and 131mph on an A road.....
if that was any of us mere plebs we WOULD have been locked up.....
He should be locked up...... if not only because he should know better and I bet he has preached about excessive speed to hundreds of unlucky
motorists falling foul of his speed traps...........
unbelievably infuriating..
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DorsetStrider
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 02:32 PM |
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Further proof, as if any were nessicary, that in this country at this time there are two sets of laws.
Which applies to you depend on who you are.
Who the f**K tightened this up!
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mookaloid
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 02:49 PM |
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makes you wanna scream - in fact I will...
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHH
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ned
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 02:50 PM |
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what a git that copper is - i've never had a car that will go that fast 
beware, I've got yellow skin
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nicksertis
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 02:56 PM |
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Surely they have a track to familiarise themselves with their vehicles?
I think it's outrageous that he got away with that excuse!
Nick
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JonBowden
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 02:57 PM |
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In 20 years of driving, most of the most dangerous examples of bad driving that I have seen have been by the police.
Eg - after my lights had gone green at a junction, an unmarked (except for a switched off blue light on it's roof) police car shot accross the
front of me, on the wrong side of it's road at about 60 MPH through a red light on it's road. Had he hit me it would have made quite a
mess.
Jon
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colibriman
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 03:04 PM |
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'familiarising himself with its capabilities'
and what if we wanted to do that with our nice newly sva'd (when it happens ) kitcars....
exactly as dorsetstrider said.there's 2 set's of rules in this rediculously overtaxed country we live in..
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Hellfire
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 03:30 PM |
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[on soap box]
I remember doing 128 at night on the way to see my brother one evening when I got pulled. I got off with it in as much as I was given a severe
b0ll0cking and ordered to pay HRH £300 and 3 points.
Ironically the policeman stated that at the speed I was doing almost a mile every 26 seconds. If it had have taken me 10 seconds to stop from that
speed I would have travelled almost 1/4 mile. In daylight, that's a long way... he was travelling at 2:00am for god's sake therefore
reduced visability!
What in the hell sort of example is this to set to the kids that terrorise our street corners and then "publically" he get's away
with it? I dare say he's in for a right 'disciplinary' BUT it was a perfect opportunity for the constabulary to show the public that
even law enforcement officers cannot get away with such wreckless and dangerous driving. They ought to, nay - still should throw the book at him!
[/off soap box]
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nicksertis
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 04:10 PM |
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Maybe
We should all join the force! 
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britishtrident
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 04:50 PM |
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Once was at a PCT were pasing Traffic cops decided to take an interest They asked to have a go and came to a rest halfway up a hill that about
70% of cars were either clearing or getting the nose into last gate --- what were they driving ? --- only Solihulls finest product Mk1 Range Rover
on Firestone M&S Tyres.
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Peteff
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 04:59 PM |
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I'm going to carry a red icebox and when I get pulled tell them I'm on a mercy dash with a liver for transplant. The onions are in there
as well.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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clbarclay
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 05:44 PM |
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Send them off to germany for high speed training on auto barns where its legal. If its not an emergancy then treet him like any other person/civilian.
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RoadkillUK
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 06:00 PM |
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OK, 159 on the motorway in the early hours of the morning, now I'm prepared to let that go but 85 (was it?) in a 30 zone, THAT is wrong.
If I want to familiarise myself with my car I have to book a day on the track.
Now if I was to take the advanced driving test, would I be able to use the same excuse? I think not.
I really could go on for quite some time about how p!ssed off I am about this but I'll stop now
Roadkill - Lee
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subk2002
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 06:44 PM |
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INFURIATING..
AAAAARRRRRRRHHHHHHHH
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 09:18 PM |
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Does this open a legal precedent?
All you have to say is that you are the creme de la creme of locost drivers, I think they would have to prove you wrong?
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 09:37 PM |
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OK you've all asked for it. I've been dying to do it all Week and this gives me the chance.
He's a cop
they are the last bastions of law and order
And
wait for it
THE FORCE WAS WITH HIM
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Simon
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 09:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RoadkillUKNow if I was to take the advanced driving test, would I be able to use the same excuse? I think not.
I've done RoSPA (Gold) and IAM on me bike ('busa) - does this mean I can legitimately test it's performance.
Should leave his Cavalier trailing somewhat
ATB
Simon
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 18/5/05 at 09:47 PM |
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Seriously though does the statement
"In reaching his verdict, Mr Morgan noted that two police officers who gave evidence for the prosecution, including West Mercia Police's
senior driving instructor, had declined to classify the defendant's driving as dangerous."
Does this mean that joe bloggs can now drive at any ridiculous speed as long as two suitably qualified mates are prepared to state in court they did
not think his driving was dangerous.
I've got 2 health and safety people would vouch for me
Who have the rest of you got to vouch for you.
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andyps
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| posted on 20/5/05 at 10:23 AM |
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The points it raises are:
1) Speed in itself is not dangerous - but we all know that despite what the governement tell us.
2) Police speed recording equipment is not to be trusted (a Vectra, even a 3.2 is unlikely to be able to reach 159mph) but they wouldn't dare
admit that in court.
3) If you have done a police driving course you are exempt from speeding convictions.
Therefore, all "safety camera partnerships" need to to be renamed "exceeding an arbitrary number so pay up partnerships". The
police need to make their driving courses available to the public to avoid there being a them and us (otherwise known as a police state).
Oh yes, they need to realise that if they do this regularly any respect the public may have left evaporates very quickly.
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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Brooky
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| posted on 20/5/05 at 10:52 AM |
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He wasnt in court for the speeding aspect. As an operational police driver he was exempt from certain aspects of the road traffic act - one being
speed limits.
He was up for dangerous driving, and found not guilty based on video and testamony of serving police driving experts.
I myself am a fireman who regularly does high speed runs in various conditions, the thing foremost in my mind is the safety of the public , my crew,
my self and my vehicle, all taken into account bearing in mind the circumstances of the incident.
I am sure such considerations were taken into account by the officer. for instance I once went past a schhol at 40 mph on the way to a job , but the
next time i passed on the way to a job i did about 15 mph. The first time it was 3am three on a sunday morining going to a house fire, the second time
it was 9:30 am going to a flooding.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 20/5/05 at 11:16 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Brooky
As an operational police driver he was exempt from certain aspects of the road traffic act - one being speed limits.
Does that mean that every time he is on duty, he does not have to obey the speed limits like the rest of us mere mortals What do you think would
happen to you if you were on duty and decided to see how fast your new fire engine would go just because you wanted to
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DarrenW
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| posted on 20/5/05 at 11:33 AM |
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Iam all for our emergency service professionals being trained to a high std and being able to drive at speeds that the rest of us would be convicted
for. There would be a public outcry if such professionals had to observe the limits at all times. How else are they to be able to react in emergence
situations. 159mph does seem excessive but they have to practice so that safety can be observed in real situations.
The force provided him with a vehicle that had the capability. If he had to detain someone driving a Porsche or similar driven by a gunman that had
just massacred school kids etc then i for one would be happy in the knowledge that they could do this following the best training that can be
provided. Iam sure we would share the same thoughts if our family needed the swift responses of the fire and ambulance crews as well, the only
difference being that their vehicles cannot do the same high speeds.
In this case i believe the verdict was fair and just. Not a decision that i come to lightly.
What car was he driving?
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Noodle
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| posted on 20/5/05 at 12:02 PM |
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Chappie was driving a Vectra V6 according to Radio 4. He could have picked something worthwhile to taz around in.
Still, I don't give a monkeys about this coppers actions because:
The governing laws of all this motoring (here and elsewhere) are based on the levels of the lowest common denominator. In this country that can be
very, very low. It'll be this fact that the judge based his summing-up on. Really, we should be allowed to go as fast as the conditions allow.
But people's stupidity beggars belief at times so it's one rule for all. It is this chaps profession not to be stupid and be able to take
things into account. They do it when chasing hoodlums, so why not in this safer environment?
The road he was on can allow bursts of high speed. I know, I've done it. A mate of mine was pulled doing 120mph in his Subaru along there. He
was told to be more careful, so he was.
This chap would have done a burst of 159mph. Not a contiguous block of ultra-high speed. Other than the prevailing non-reactionary motoring
political climate, what's the difference between a German autobahn and an empty British motorway?
Cheers,
Neil.
Your sort make me sick
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Hellfire
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| posted on 20/5/05 at 12:05 PM |
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FFS... I'm not saying that all emergency services should obey speed limits and I totally agree that they need to be trained to high standards.
Bear in mind that this police officer was NOT responding to an emergency but merely seeing how fast his new vehicle would go. There are times and
places for that sort of driving and the public highway is not one of them.
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