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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 14/7/05 at 08:51 PM Reply With Quote
The longest speed trap in the UK?

Down Colibrimans way they have set up the Yellow Vultures..... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4681507.stm

[Edited on 14-7-05 by mangogrooveworkshop]






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Guinness

posted on 14/7/05 at 08:56 PM Reply With Quote
At least there is a map of the locations and the extent of the scheme:-

Map

HTH Mike

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NS Dev

posted on 14/7/05 at 08:58 PM Reply With Quote
yep, more sh1t enforcement of stupid limits by ill informed w4nkers.

Sorry, but speed cameras are a total joke. Safety my arse.

Never mind the accident blackspots coming up, just keep that eye on the speedo son

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omega 24 v6

posted on 14/7/05 at 09:00 PM Reply With Quote
So on a long journey from say Aberdeen to Stranraer when we get to this area we need to stop at a nice eatery somewhere between the 2 sets of cameras.
Any ideas.They've gotta be a great thing for someones choke and puke.


OOOH just looked at the map of locations. Thats a serious amount of cameras on 1 road talk about overkill.

[Edited on 14/7/05 by omega 24 v6]

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colibriman

posted on 14/7/05 at 09:00 PM Reply With Quote
tell me about it......infuriating

was a good bike road.....

and not even bad for accidents..........just a friggin money maker....





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Hellfire

posted on 14/7/05 at 09:20 PM Reply With Quote
Col... you sure about that?


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Not that I'm disagreeing mind... 28 miles of boredom... would be enough to make anyone lose concentration and crash!!!






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colibriman

posted on 14/7/05 at 09:25 PM Reply With Quote
exactly.....

they just opened a new stretch of the A77, where it was a bad...really really dangerous road........

guess what.....the camera's aint anywhere near that section of it............





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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 14/7/05 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
No more rushing for the ferry to NI






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omega 24 v6

posted on 14/7/05 at 09:29 PM Reply With Quote
When gatso's came out there was word of these types of cameras becoming available. In all honesty (unfortuneately)they are the only type that are going to keep speeds down to the legal limits.
Soooo I vote for higher legal limits.
85 on Motorways
75 on duals
60 on A roads, with the provision that if your overtaking anything going slower than 60, you can go as fast as you like as you pass then return to 60 without being prosecuted

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subk2002

posted on 14/7/05 at 09:32 PM Reply With Quote
Wish you had told me about these sooner i was down that way yesterday and wasnt to sure what they were
think i might have been going a bit fast at times






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colibriman

posted on 14/7/05 at 10:13 PM Reply With Quote
hope not......went live yesterday i think...





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subk2002

posted on 14/7/05 at 10:28 PM Reply With Quote
I was down at the electric brea with SHMBO
Fingers crossed im ok






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steve_gus

posted on 14/7/05 at 11:30 PM Reply With Quote
nothing new.

the same system (4 cams) is on a 2 mile stretch of the a43 in northampton and had been live over 3 years. There are also 3 cams on the a428 between northampton and bedford over a 6 mile stretch


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stevebubs

posted on 15/7/05 at 01:41 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve_gus
nothing new.

the same system (4 cams) is on a 2 mile stretch of the a43 in northampton and had been live over 3 years. There are also 3 cams on the a428 between northampton and bedford over a 6 mile stretch


atb

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spotted some in roadworks on the m1 yesterday

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tadltd

posted on 15/7/05 at 02:00 AM Reply With Quote
Colibriman's right - the most dangerous parts of the road were between Fenwick and Newton Mearns (just south of Glasgow), and Ayr to Stranraer.

The bit between Fenwick and Glasgow has just had a brand new motorway put in, but most of the stretch between Ayr and Stranraer isn't covered by these cameras. They are in fact covering the safest stretch of the road, so where's the justification?

The death and injury toll will reduce thanks to the new motorway section where most of the accidents took place (it used to be a dual carriageway with nothing but a a double white-line separating the two carriageways), not thanks to the new cameras.







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NS Dev

posted on 15/7/05 at 07:25 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steve_gus
nothing new.

the same system (4 cams) is on a 2 mile stretch of the a43 in northampton and had been live over 3 years. There are also 3 cams on the a428 between northampton and bedford over a 6 mile stretch


atb

steve


Yup, I've driven a couple of times down that stretch of the A428, and it is taking the p155.

I would say that there is nothing more distracting when driving alone at night down a road with specs cameras. The constant paranoia about forward speed seriously limits attention paid to actually driving. Surely I am not the only one that thinks that these devices actually distract and impair the ability to drive.

I don't drive everywhere like an idiot, I drive to the conditions. There are times when I will drive at 30 mph in a 60 limit, and there are times when I will drive at 100mph in one. I use DISCRESSION, something that cameras don't allow for, but policemen in police cars (for the main part I think) did.

The speed camera issue really makes my blood boil. I think the time has now arrived where the front numberplate of my car is coming off, being jumped on a few times and broken in two to give suitable "impact damage" and then being chucked in the boot.

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need4speed

posted on 15/7/05 at 07:32 AM Reply With Quote
I have used both roads often, the A428 is just the Northamptonshire police they have so called safety all over the place. quite often on the bridges over the M1 and A45. as for the A77 was a good bit of road as long as you timed it right to miss the lorry's coming off the ferry. I would of thought some bits of the A75 can't be far behind.

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DaveFJ

posted on 15/7/05 at 07:58 AM Reply With Quote
we have them at the moment on the Orwell bridge by ipswich. justification is becuase it is being worked on - underneath ! now call me picky but i could cross that bridge at 200mph and at no time would someone underneath the damn thing be in danger!!!

anyway rant over...


I noticed yesterday that in the USA some interstate limits have gone up to 80mph, sorry but what the f**k, how can the septics get higher limits than us ? it's just not ... British.... in fact it's practically un-patriotic not to up ours to 85 !!

[Edited on 15/7/05 by DaveFJ]





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Hellfire

posted on 15/7/05 at 08:53 AM Reply With Quote
One on the A616 Sheffield/Manchester... that too is on a safe (but fast) part of the road. Ironically the places where they have a 200foot drop inches from the road are not covered by it It's 'big brother' for big brother's sake. It makes my blood boil too... but what can one do? Petition?






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Volvorsport

posted on 15/7/05 at 10:14 AM Reply With Quote
yeah , weve got some in between gainsborough and bawtry , and a reduced limit to 50 mph - so what happens when you get stuck behind a lorry doing 45 mph and want to over take on the dual carriageways in between those sections - you go over the average speed and get nicked - its just not fair .

lincolnshire had someting like 90 deaths last year over the county , most of the cameras are nowhere near these so called accidents occur - and most are caused by impatient people wanting to pass slower 45mph lorrys on a 60 mph A road - time to think of a revolving number plate !!





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britishtrident

posted on 15/7/05 at 11:47 AM Reply With Quote
Just been through it, it was causing really bad bunching even though the road was quiet I am pretty sure most of the cretins don't even know what the speed limmit is on a dual carriageway. It would have been far more sensible to slap a short 60 or even (gulp) 50mph limit on the stretch around the dangerous crossroads just before the speed trap starts when heading from the Kilmarnock/Glasgow but it isn't to do with safety is all to do with money.

In my area over last couple of years in my are the number of looney changes to roads and junction has become ridiculous East Kilbride is the worst affected with a rash of new mini roundabouts that are almost invisible on approach and stupid pointless and dangerous trafic lights on roundabouts that have caused a rash of minor accidents.

The most looney speed limits must be the stretch of he A8 from Greenock to glasgow around Glasgow Airport slip road this is a very dangerous section of road but the mismash of ill thought out speed limits only make it worse.


[Edited on 16/7/05 by britishtrident]

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zilspeed

posted on 15/7/05 at 12:19 PM Reply With Quote
New road markings at the roundabout at High Blantyre industrial estate.
Silly markings for a fortnight. Quickly rethought to avoid silliness and shunts.

They had it so you had to be in the right hand lane to go straight through when the natural thing to do was to keep left and leave the RH lane for turning right.
They now have it filtered to one lane only.
Forces people to wait in line. No bad thing IMHO.

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James

posted on 15/7/05 at 12:24 PM Reply With Quote
From BBC:
"The £775,000 initiative consists of 40 banks of hi-tech cameras at points between Bogend Toll, north of Ayr, to Ardwell, south of Girvan and is the largest in the UK. "



Just imagine- small amount of explosive round the base of each one, timed to go off in sequence along the motorway about 1/2 to 3rd of a second apart.

Would be just like hitting the nuke'em button in Lemmings and seeing them all go pop in one long line!

How many lots of £775,000 do you think they'd be willing to pay?

James

[Edited on 15/7/05 by James]





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marcyboy

posted on 15/7/05 at 12:40 PM Reply With Quote
they've got those spec cameras on the M1 near junction 20 where the roadworks are and bloody 40 mile an hour too,
i noticed them on wednesday but didn't notice them on monday when i was motoring ..doh!!!, was i half asleep or did i just get nicked.

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David Jenkins

posted on 15/7/05 at 12:44 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by James
Just imagine- small amount of explosive round the base of each one, timed to go off in sequence along the motorway about 1/2 to 3rd of a second apart.



Er... getting yourself nicked for setting off explosives would NOT be a good idea, just at the moment...

DJ






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