rayward
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| posted on 26/12/05 at 08:23 PM |
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anyone done a clutch on a discovery???
cheapest garage wants £450, but i can get the parts for £125, is it really that big a job??, could it be done DIY???.
cheers
Ray
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dave-69isit
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 posted on 26/12/05 at 08:29 PM |
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clutch
its a complete x wife to do complete gear box has to come out both drive shafts box wighs atlest 250 pound unles your built like my x wife i
would bite lee buulet and pay the man
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jacko
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| posted on 26/12/05 at 08:43 PM |
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Ray get in touch with [ Andy w ] he knows a man who knows about land rovers in Hull Graham
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Johnmor
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| posted on 26/12/05 at 09:29 PM |
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I have a Rangerover Tdi, did the cluth myself last year, pretty big job as both the gearbox and transfer box have to be lowered, must weight 150kgs.
The engine can be tilted up at the front on its mountings to allow removal of bell housing top bolts, but you will have to remove the viscous fan and
cowel to allow engine to tilt without damaging the radiator. if you have an engine crane you can lower the gearbox through the gearlever hole in the
body, much easier than trying to support the gearbox from below.
Whole job took about 8 hours and lots of bad language, but bought a clutch kit for £85 from mm-4x4.com, good service not bad prices.
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caber
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| posted on 26/12/05 at 10:20 PM |
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Can be done from a decent ramp that will allow you to jack the box. You should be able to get enough space to swop the cover and plate between the
gearbox and engine though it is tight. Not a job to do under the car on a driveway!
Caber
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 26/12/05 at 10:24 PM |
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NO!!!!!
Dont drop the box unless you have a fully equipped workshop including the special frame to bolt the box onto and a gearbox lift etc,etc.
I have done over a dozen disco boxes and more than 30 land rover and a few Range rover boxes,clutches.
Right: the easy way. DIY.
Remove the rad,cowling and intercooler.
Disconnect the exhaust downpipe.
Remove the Viscous fan.
Unbolt the belhousing bolts including the awkward top one(which doesn't usually go back)
Support the engine on a hoist or lifting beam.
Disconnect the engine mounts.
Leaving everything connected,swing the ENGINE forward about 8 inches.
Now fit the Clutch.
Should take less than 8 hours if you have not done one before,and you need a friend to locate the engine back.
You may find that if the clutch failure was very sudden it might just be the clutch arm collapsing,and not the clutch.
If its a gradual thing its the clutch.
The genuine ones are not as good as the BORG and BECK ones, and the pedal is easier and lighter with a B&B clutch.
All the Discos I've done have been this way.
[Edited on 26/12/05 by DEAN C.]
[Edited on 26/12/05 by DEAN C.]
Once I've finished a project why do I start another?
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 26/12/05 at 10:44 PM |
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Caber,no disrespect but the gearboxes are so heavy, and the balance is offcentre due to the extra transfer box.
You will find it almost impossible to safely support the boxes,and fit them back without the proper mounting frame for them.
A lot of Land Rover franchise mechanics split the transfer box off first when removing boxes.
[Edited on 26/12/05 by DEAN C.]
Once I've finished a project why do I start another?
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wilkingj
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| posted on 26/12/05 at 11:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by DEAN C.
Caber,no disrespect but the gearboxes are so heavy, and the balance is offcentre due to the extra transfer box.
[Edited on 26/12/05 by DEAN C.]
I agree with Dean. I have done 3 series ones and a 110. Geabox is V heavy..
Dont do it unless you have the right gear.
like ALL Landy work... not that hard but everything is very heavy, and thus awkward to do alone, or without the right gear.
At least with series and 110's you can remove the floor and hang the box on a crane (easiest way to do them) but I am not sure you can do
that on a Disco.
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 26/12/05 at 11:39 PM |
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Yep! with the landy boxes I use to put a cross beam through the cab from door to door,hang a block and tackle and lower the box into the pit,just by
taking the tunnel out and not the whole seating box.
The seat boxes were always rusted solid(the bolts I mean),
and added a couple of hours to the job.
It was sometimes easier to take the roof off if it wasn't sealed up.Then place the Landy under the lifting beam and lower the box that way.
Once I've finished a project why do I start another?
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andybod
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 08:23 AM |
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if it's a 200tdi i'de agree with deanc if it's a 300tdi i'de remove box ,at rear of gearbox there's 3 8mm threaded holes
at the bottom make a bracket to bolt to these and fit into jack (remove the round jack foot) no need to unbolt transfer box as weight is central when
mounted on bracket box can be moved back enough to replace clutch also recomend fit new rear crank seal/ spigot bearing and release arm
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ch1ll1
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 10:03 AM |
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done it one a series 1 and a disco
on the series 1 moved the box back and make a input shaft up (to line the clutch up)(long 1/2inch ext and tape)
but on a disco its best to remove the box as the box is so heavy and you dont want to smash it!
more cost!!
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DEAN C.
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| posted on 27/12/05 at 02:49 PM |
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I've done 200 and 300 tdi's by swinging the engine forward.
If you have a 200 the there is a diagram in the dealer workshop manual for the frame to balance and hold the LT 77 box,as andybod has mentioned.
The 300 had the 380 box and my manuals are not up to that,except the Haynes disco but I dont think it shows the gearbox mounting frame.
If you have not wrestled a Landy box of any era Beware!! they are back breakers and you must move them mechanically,not physically.
But, by the time you have made a frame you could have moved the engine forward,its your choice.
Once I've finished a project why do I start another?
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