Bob C
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 01:16 PM |
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Crash helmets at aldi
Anybody heard of a "caberg classico" helmet?- any good? would it be accepted at a trackday?
they're £34 at aldi right now
Bob
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NS Dev
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 01:21 PM |
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nope, never heard of em and not an item to scrimp on!!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 01:33 PM |
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Caberg is a good brand - but my 'Justissimo' cost a hell of a lot more than £34!
LINKY
David
[Edited on 24/3/06 by David Jenkins]
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andyace
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 02:15 PM |
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The classico usually retails around £50
The Justissimo you can get for about £130
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jos
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 02:25 PM |
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Why not scrimp. My helmet was £100 ish and I think thats scrimping and I would hapily buy a £30 or £50 helmet for occasional passenger use as theres
next to no chance of falling off a kit car in the same way as falling off a bike and having your head bouncing off the tarmac. A helmet for a kit car
is solely to protect your head from pidgeons, wasps, stone & other airbourne matter not to protect you brain in the event of you falling off.
If you roll it, thats another matter but roll bars/cage should be considered well before a helmet if your worried about rolling it.
Just my tuppence worth.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 02:28 PM |
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Fair comment - but the original question was whether such a helmet would be allowed at a track day. I don't know the answer to that one! 
All I can say is that the manuf. is legitimate and well-known, so it isn't something that Aldi has imported from Outer mongolia...
[Edited on 24/3/06 by David Jenkins]
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iank
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 02:45 PM |
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They are ECE-2205 whatever that means
http://www.caberg-helm.com/home.aspx?xL=e&xM=prodotti&xSM=%40%40%40integrali&xP=%40%40%40%40%40%40%40103+CLASSICO_nosbmtcf_XS+S+M+L+XL_a&a
mp;xPC=
Do Aldi allow you to try them on in the shop to get the right size? If not it's a bit of a lottery since fit is the most important thing.
At worse they will be fine for keeping bugs out of your eyes I suppose.
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DarrenW
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 03:01 PM |
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My nitro helmet has ECER22-05 on it. Also has gold British Motorcycle Sport badge which i have been told is what they look for. Im no expert though
and have been told some track days days dont look that far as long as you have a helmet.
I doubt i could use mine for racing though.
Can any track day regulars cofirm?
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 04:43 PM |
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Ive yet too see an helmet inspected/looked at at any track day, not too say they don't just never experienced it myself.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 05:01 PM |
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Let me add (again) that ECE badged helmets are no use if you think you might get involved in any sort of motorsport.
Get a BS badged lid and try it before you buy it..
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Hellfire
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 05:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Let me add (again) that ECE badged helmets are no use if you think you might get involved in any sort of motorsport.
Get a BS badged lid and try it before you buy it..
In the move to make one EU regulation the French and Germans all think their standard is the best - obviously our BS is best (no pun intended). The CE
mark is an agreement between (is it?) 22 countries... but ours have to confirm to both to be used in motorsport. About time this rule was settled
afterall - helmets made in the EU are hardly likely to be different than the one's UK import are they?
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MikeR
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 05:35 PM |
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the helmets have teh gold bike sticker on them. I know cause i've got one to keep the flys out of my eyes!
No intention of using it for proper motorsport.
Yeah, aldi do let you try them on. I bought two (medium and large) spent time last night and this morning trying them on and returned the medium.
The comment about how much is your head worth is definately worth stating here. More expensive helmets will be better overall when all factors are
considered (weight, lifetime, safety, etc etc etc)
This is a cheap stone protector helmet that luckily has passed a few levels of legislation so i know its not complete rubbish.
I think (no evidence) the difference between a bike helmet and car helmet is one is designed to take 1 impact (bike) and the other multiple (car).
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NS Dev
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 06:52 PM |
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People like Mike that know me will know that I am not necessarily the most safety concious person in the world, but I would hate to be in the ironic
situation of wearing a helmet but it not protecting me.
As for the car being safer, that is complete and utter crap. The rollbar is the most dangerous thing about it helmet wise!!! Your helmet can smack off
it a few times even in a fairly limited crash, hence the anvil shapes used to test em for car use.
If/when I take my car on a track day, I'll wear the same helmet and neck brace that I use in my racer, I won't be driving like I'm
on the way to the Co-op after all.
You sure you don't want to come out in the 7 for a run Mike?!
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Bob C
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 07:24 PM |
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Some interesting points there boys, thanks!
I bought one anyway, to keep livestock out of my eyes & teeth between SVA and fitting a windscreen.
I had assumed that bikers needed a lid & car drivers didn't really - so the info about multiple skull impacts in shunt & design
differences between car & bike ones is all very interesting!
It's nice & light BTW, I guess the car ones are generally much heavier? It certainly says "for bikes" so you don't get
confused!
cheers
Bob
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Humbug
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 07:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
...I know cause i've got one to keep the flys out of my eyes!
...No intention of using it for proper motorsport.
...This is a cheap stone protector helmet that luckily has passed a few levels of legislation so i know its not complete rubbish...
Mike - these views exactly agree with my reasons for getting a helmet... in my case a £50 Shark bike helmet.
If I considered any competitive stuff I would get a "proper" lid; as it is, I am not likely to do more than a trackday or two.
[Edited on 24.03.2006 by Humbug]
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 24/3/06 at 08:01 PM |
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One big difference between cheap helmets and expensive ones is noise level - the dearer ones often give lower wind noise levels.
David
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MikeR
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| posted on 25/3/06 at 12:02 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
People like Mike that know me will know that I am not necessarily the most safety concious person in the world, but I would hate to be in the ironic
situation of wearing a helmet but it not protecting me.
[bit removed]
If/when I take my car on a track day, I'll wear the same helmet and neck brace that I use in my racer, I won't be driving like I'm
on the way to the Co-op after all.
You sure you don't want to come out in the 7 for a run Mike?!
Ahem. The way you drive to the supermarket is the same way 50% of people will drive on a track. You've got to remember you will drive up to
(guestimate) 20%+ faster on the road than most (ok me) people. I will not be going in the seven with you on the road, period. I really don't
enjoy being in a road car with you. On the track, i'll happily to sit next to you. I'll be screaming my head off but with decent run off
area, visibility round corners and no one coming in the opposite direction i'll be loving it, which are the exact reasons i won't be on
the highway with you.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 25/3/06 at 12:57 AM |
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LOL!
makes me sound like a loonatic!
Seriously I always drive with a HUGE amount of safety reserve on the road, particularly with people in the car with me. Prior to my big accident at 18
I drove like a prat, in the 10 years since then I may drive briskly but always safely.
Back to the point though, if I am spending money on a lid, I want it to do something should something awful happen!
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JoelP
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| posted on 25/3/06 at 09:01 AM |
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my local bike shop has a helmet on the counter labelled 'ebay special'! Doesnt make you confident. Its only £29!
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Surrey Dave
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| posted on 26/3/06 at 01:40 PM |
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Is not the level of testing BS which is more important if 2 helmets have the same standard how can one be less safe regardless of cost?
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zilspeed
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| posted on 26/3/06 at 01:48 PM |
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All I know is that the ECE standard is not recognised at all by the RACMSA. I am also told (pinch of salt time) that the ECE testing is not an
external independent testing regime like the
BS test is.
When I bought my helmet, I knew I would want to do some low level motorsport. The ECE helmet would not have been accepted. I've seen it
happening.
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MikeR
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| posted on 26/3/06 at 11:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Surrey Dave
Is not the level of testing BS which is more important if 2 helmets have the same standard how can one be less safe regardless of cost?
Ah, but one helmet can exceed the test by a great margin the other only just scrape through. They'd both still get the same certificate. So
they'd both offer the same basic protection but ......... in real life which would you rather have on your head?
Seem to recall only getting one head so don't anyone (NS Dev) dare ask me to explain why i've got a cheap helmet.
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Surrey Dave
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| posted on 27/3/06 at 12:09 AM |
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That could be true but I cant recall any helmets advertised with claims of how far they exceed the testing criteria, they would just make it pass the
next grading up and charge a premium for it.
helmet manufacturers are after a profit so why make a helmet that is twice as good as it needs to be?
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MikeR
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| posted on 27/3/06 at 05:17 PM |
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reputation.
make it twice as good (for 10% more) and charge 50% more for it!
standard business practice. 
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NS Dev
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| posted on 28/3/06 at 01:03 AM |
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why have you got a cheap helmet Mike!!!????
ahhh, forgot, you'll be ok, you're not coming in my 7!! LOL!
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