phelpsa
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 03:58 PM |
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From the wiltshire police:
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Wiltshire Police are aware of the media reports concerning a proposed march through Wootton Bassett organised by a group called Islam 4uk and the
significant community concern which has ensued.
There is clear legislation, contained in the 1986 Public Order Act, which dictates the process to be undertaken by the organiser before any such march
can lawfully take place.
The Public Order Act states that the organiser must inform the police of the date, time and route of the proposed procession, together with the name
and address of the organiser.
If the march or procession is believed to be likely to result in serious disorder, disruption or damage, then the police can impose conditions upon
the organiser.
In exceptional circumstances, the police may apply to the Local Authority for an order prohibiting such a march.
In these particular circumstances, Wiltshire Police will be liaising closely with the local community and our partner agencies. Furthermore, contact
will be sought with the organisers at the earliest opportunity in order to determine the facts of the proposed march. To date there has been no
contact from Islam4uk or any other group wishing to arrange such a march in Wootton Bassett.
Whilst Wiltshire Police respect the right of the public to partake in peaceful protests, public safety is of paramount importance and compliance with
the law essential.
That sounds to me like it's unlikely to happen....
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 04:09 PM |
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quote:
That sounds to me like it's unlikely to happen....
That sounds to me that they are not likely to tell the authorities anyway. So a scuffle or 2 ensuses and all of a sudden it's an insult to islam
and another opertunity for the fanatics to go haywire.
You see when 9/11 , lockerbie , london bombings occured it was an act of terrorism
the papers and the press love it. re write it as an attack against christians/mormons/anglicans etc etc and it becomes a racial insult.
The fact is that there a fanatics using this crap as a way of driving people against each other in this country. A country they stay in, a country
that is way way better than the coubtry they or their parents came from, a country that hands out cash and health and democracy.
But they don't want that So WHy OH Why OH Why don't they (the fanatics) Just F**K OFF and stay with the fanatics/ countries they are
supporting.
I'LL TELL YOU WHY
No Balls any of them. Faceless protestors intimidating the people who care in Wooton Basset/ or anywhere else in the UK.
Still I'm sure there will be a multitude of do gooders willing to back/support them/their right to march.
This country (a democracy) I really do not think so anymore.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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scootz
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 04:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by omega 24 v6
Still I'm sure there will be a multitude of do gooders willing to back/support them/their right to march.
If it does go ahead, then I will be making the 800-mile round trip to Wootton-Bassett to take a stand. I've literally had enough and will do
all that I can to help prevent this obscenity from taking place. This is the first time in my life that I've ever felt this strongly about such
an issue, and gauging the faces of those who I've spoken to about it today, then I'm certainly not alone!
It's Evolution Baby!
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andkilde
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 04:45 PM |
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Since I haven't said anything outrageous on here in a couple of years...
I say ban all religions -- the adherents are always bickering about whose 'god' is the correct one. They start ALL the wars and cause
endless mayhem in the name of righteousness.
Keep Church Of England though, they don't really talk about god much, and we need someplace to get married and eat tea and cakes...
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 04:54 PM |
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Little bit of me background.
Spent years traveling all over the world mostly work related, always acted on the principle,
When in Rome, and respected fully whatever local traditions where, Ramadan for instance, a few above suggest Britain is not a free country anymore,
well I suggest you nip over to Iran for example and try a like for like demonstration/march touting western values ? You wont be coming home.
Its simple, its not racist just plain simple, if you don't like it here bugger off home.
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prawnabie
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 05:10 PM |
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If it does go ahead, then I will be making the 800-mile round trip to Wootton-Bassett to take a stand.
Pick me up on the way scootz!!
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scootz
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 05:15 PM |
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I'll hire a bus!
It's Evolution Baby!
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Benzine
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 05:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by splitrivet
I agree Iraq was stupid Afgahistan is a different matter, the Taliban are mainly not Afgans but loony Saudi's, Pakinstani's, Chechens and
the dregs of other Muslim states all wishing to force thier view on the Afgan people which they did in the past with horrific consequences, dont
forget this is where all the terrorism began back when they had control of the country.
Sounds like a ruthless and oppressive bunch controlling an innocent population. So we're off to save the Palestinians too? If we went round the
world trying to do away with nasty people/governments/groups we'd run out of time and money. By being in Afghanistan more terrorists are being
created. You will never get to a point where you go "that's it! got 'em all!"
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clairetoo
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 05:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I'll hire a bus!
This video shows what happens to those who dare to organize
peacefull protest in this country............they wouldnt dare to treat these extremist muslem scum the same way .
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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miikae
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 05:21 PM |
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I totally agree with Jon Ison, as i spent 2 yrs working in Libya for there Navy & on there LAF bases, you certainly learn to toe the line as a
wrong word spoken or hand gesters at the wrong car can end you up being visited by the secret police and marched off to the pokie and left in solitary
for a day with only a light bulb for company, watch taken so no idea of the time.
I know as this happened to a work friend of mine as he was cut up by the wrong car and shouted and balled at them.
He soon learnt his lesson from there on.
Mike
If it can be done it i will be done .
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owelly
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 05:27 PM |
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I say let Islam4UK march through Wootton-Bassett. And I also say to the good folks of Wootton-Bassett, come out into the streets and slow clap them.
Show these people that you can see what they are doing, you understand why they are doing it, but you don't agree.
What can they do then? They can't accuse anyone of 'a win'. In fact, the locals are supporting the demonstrators by demonstrating
themselves!!
IMHO, we can't condemn the beliefs of any religious group. Some crazy folks seem to think some virgin woman gave birth to some kid who grew-up
to die and was then re-born. How mad is that??
As you may have guessed, I can't believe in any sort of religion. It makes no logical sense so I don't believe it.
I'll also add that I totally support our guys and girls in the armed forces, wherever they happen to be even if I think the millions the
government are spending, of our money, could be better spent barracading our shores!
[Edited on 2/1/10 by owelly]
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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x_flow57
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 07:07 PM |
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We really need to start sticking up for our country.
Anybody organising any buses from East Anglia.
I received this e-mail the other day, I thought it highly ammusing, but I'm beginning to think it actually makes sence.
Brown wants us to cut the amount of petrol we use.....
The best way to stop using so much petrol is to deport 3
million illegal immigrants!
That would be 3 million less people using our petrol. The
price of petrol would come down.....
Bring our troops home from Afghanistan to guard the Channel....
When they catch an illegal immigrant crossing the Channel,
hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Afghanistan ....
Tell him if he wants to come to Britain then he
must serve a tour in the military....
Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on
it.....
After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since
he defended this country.....
He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal
resident.... .
This option will probably deter illegal immigration and
provide a solution for the troops in Afghanistan and the aliens trying to make
a better life for themselves.. ....
If they refuse to serve, ship them to Afghanistan anyway,
without the canteen, rifle or ammo.....
Problem solved....
If you think this is a good solution to both the problems, forward it to your
friends. ..........
Nick
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 09:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
Actually we don't live in a free country - they are arguably having a demonstration that will incite racial violence, this is (i believe /
think) illegal, although for some reason appears to be permitted.
It's permitted because it's against white people. In this country you can be as racist and sexist as you want, as long as it's
toward with people and men.
I believe in freedom of speech but some people think because of that there's no consequences. If a bunch of german people started protesting
about the British army murdering their people in 1940 they'd have been mobbed.
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dlatch
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| posted on 2/1/10 at 10:11 PM |
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stuff like this really makes me mad
general cencus this year lets see how many are really here was around 3% 10 years ago i bet its more like 12% now and will double to over 24% in
another 10 years as they out breed everyother religion on the planet
if the march does go ahead i will also be willing to attend to demonstrate against their march. slow hand clap idea sounds good too
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morcus
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| posted on 3/1/10 at 07:42 AM |
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When I read the header I though this would be a joke, surely it can't be legal to parade with empty coffins on the route service men are brought
back on?
Wouldn't it be great if half the country turned up to show them just what the majority of us really think.
I don't think Britian is apathetic, I think the majority of people feel they can't express themselves politically for fear of being
branded a bigot or a racist or any number of other things because as has been said, you can be as offensive as you like to White people, Christians or
men but say the slightest thing about anyone else and everything is against you.
On a side note, and at the risk of taking some flak, Isreal is a completely different kettle of fish to Afganistan, Partly because they're
bezzies with America but mostly because of how they came to be.
[Edited on 3/1/10 by morcus]
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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Jumpy Guy
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| posted on 3/1/10 at 11:35 AM |
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Wait a minute. Lots of talk here about how bad muslims are.
This march is not organised by normal muslims, its a minoroty of lunatics.
who dont actually repesenet the majority of law abiding muslims in this country.
Just like when the BNP march, I dont say - 'Ban all Christians'
And neither do the majority of muslims
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 3/1/10 at 12:00 PM |
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quote:
Wait a minute. Lots of talk here about how bad muslims are. This march is not organised by normal muslims, its a minoroty of lunatics. who dont
actually repesenet the majority of law abiding muslims in this country. Just like when the BNP march, I dont say - 'Ban all Christians'
And neither do the majority of muslims
I hope that you realize most decent people would realize that was the case. It's the lunatic franternity that we all ( every decent person
regardless of race or religion )want out of this country.
The sad fact is that many young people usually jump on the band wagon of marches like this even if they don't have extreme or strong views on
what the march is about. You will also get the trouble makers who are there regardless to just make sure things do kick off.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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Benzine
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| posted on 3/1/10 at 08:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by morcus
On a side note, and at the risk of taking some flak, Isreal is a completely different kettle of fish to Afganistan, Partly because they're
bezzies with America but mostly because of how they came to be.
...because Britain messed everything up over there... much like in Afghanistan 
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RK
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| posted on 3/1/10 at 11:31 PM |
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I know we in Canada have the odd Tamil/Palistinian/oppressed-population, you-name-it protesting here once in a while, but it seems you have allowed
these extremists to spout off for a long time, and have never done anything about it. I'm sure you have laws about promoting hatred, and I
don't see why they're not enforced.
I also don't see how marching through Northern Ireland in a funny hat is any different, in that it offended large numbers of taxpayers, and
people addressed that (eventually). Of course, the only reason that was resolved (if it is) is that the US realised terrorists are not always muslim
and stopped sending so much money.
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scootz
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| posted on 4/1/10 at 01:15 PM |
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Seems like the PM maybe does have a pair... LINKY
It's Evolution Baby!
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scootz
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| posted on 4/1/10 at 01:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jumpy Guy
Wait a minute. Lots of talk here about how bad muslims are.
Utter nonsense! Who has said that on this thread?
Plenty of opinions on religious EXTREMISTS, but no-one has insinuated that Muslims are bad per se.
It's exactly this kind of unsubstantiated accusatory statement in favour of a fashionable minority that gets folks backs up!
It's Evolution Baby!
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Jumpy Guy
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| posted on 4/1/10 at 02:03 PM |
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Scootz,
Im not interested in some kind of bun fight.
In previous posts someone quoted % figures of Muslims in the UK. And then said 'they will outbreed every other religion'.
I think its fairly clear that is a view on muslims, not muslim extremists.
And no, I dont think that its very clear that to some posters this isnt a thread about Islam in general.
To finish, I'll happily apologise if i've taken anyone out of context, but Ive received u2u and emails from Locostbuilders thanking me for
previous posts.
[Edited on 4/1/10 by Jumpy Guy]
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scootz
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| posted on 4/1/10 at 04:49 PM |
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One member in 5 Pages of posts has made a remark about population growth in relation to one religious group... that hardly makes it 'lots of
talk'!
Also, his post doesn't say that this religious group are 'bad'.
PS - Not sure what you mean about a 'bun-fight'... it's a forum for discussing things (what we're doing). It's natural
that some of us will have differing views!
It's Evolution Baby!
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angliamotorsport
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| posted on 4/1/10 at 05:16 PM |
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islam4uk, if they were on fire I would not p... on them to put them out. If they don't like this country or it's policies, they should sod
off.
I'm sorry but this country has bocome a soft touch for "people" like them.
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miikae
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| posted on 4/1/10 at 05:40 PM |
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The Home Secretary has just announced that if the Wootton Bassett Authorities ask him he will gladly place a ban on the march.
Mike
If it can be done it i will be done .
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