JoelP
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| posted on 12/6/04 at 11:55 AM |
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indeed it would be...
imagine if you did this on TOL, the trouble it would cause!
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 12/6/04 at 12:39 PM |
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I got thre points on the local dual carriageway doing 77 on a 70 zone.
Now because I was in the transit with no windows at the back it is a differant calss of motor.......the fine was 60 with three points for 17 mph over
the limit.
So now instead of using the safe dual carriage way I blast the lanes instead!
Twenty five years high mileage driving with three speed fines Im doing ok considering the exposure to this occupational hazard. In SA the cops took
bribes and credit cards for on the spot fines. Officials at the traffic dept got busted for scams involving traffic fine squashing and duff licences.
The best thing about that system was the 180 rand fine DIDNT come with the points. We had a slush fund for paying fines that came out the taxbill so
the goverment got thier money back another way.!!!!!!! But we now have to abide by the laws of the land we are currently in. Bummer
  
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MikeR
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| posted on 12/6/04 at 12:47 PM |
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I have to add that some people have got out of paying the fine / points.
Dwight York did through a technicality and a very very expensive lawyer.
The hamiltons did, as they both drive hundreds of miles a week together and take it in turns, neither could remember who was driving. The judge had to
throw it out.
So thats two people out of ..... oooh a few of thousand last year.
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Mark H
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| posted on 12/6/04 at 04:54 PM |
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Cheers guys - thought of most of these i suppose - of all of them, buying students point seems the best!
Otherwise she taketh the punshment, but from clean to lost in 5 months?! There needs to be a change in the point system if the advance in cameras
keeps going.
But how else do we afford all the shiny weapons?!
Mark Harrison and
Q986 KCP back from the dead...
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chrisg
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| posted on 12/6/04 at 05:21 PM |
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This is why the government are considering issuing less points on people's licences for Greed, sorry Speed camera offences. Their own estimates
indicate that 120,000 extra drivers could be banned each year from 2004 on.
Thats an extra 120,000 government cash machines not producing revenue, they're cutting their own throats, after all we pay for 35% of all
government spending, despite les than 5% being used on the roads.
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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JoelP
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| posted on 12/6/04 at 05:43 PM |
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35%?! thats worse than i thought. So drivers provide 35% of all government revenue?!
and again,
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 12/6/04 at 08:07 PM |
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look at my history on TOL
I think I gave more than I got
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
indeed it would be...
imagine if you did this on TOL, the trouble it would cause!
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 12/6/04 at 08:11 PM |
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No
Thats totally wrong
I dont have it to hand, but my son has a leaflet from business studies on government revenue and spending.
The total budget is approx 650 billion. Car taxes - and this is a vague recollection - were in the region of 70 billion. Thats fuel as well
atb
steve
ps to mikeR
those loopholes are all closed, and prob cost 1000's of pounds to defend.
further PS
all people banned prob cant work, so instead of getting 60 quid fines, blair ends up paying more than that in benefit.
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
35%?! thats worse than i thought. So drivers provide 35% of all government revenue?!
and again,
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spunky
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| posted on 13/6/04 at 10:55 AM |
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The motorist is a valuable revenue source, granted. But its the points that really stick in my throat. As it is you can get a speeding ticket every
year and never lose your licence, but all the while the insurance companies have you loaded. The £60 fine is insignificant compared to what you will
pay in increased premiums.
I'd like to see much heavier fines without the points, I think some european countries do this...
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JoelP
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| posted on 13/6/04 at 12:10 PM |
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yeah, i'd much rather a big fine and no points... i got 6 already so i gotta avoid more at all costs!
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MikeR
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| posted on 13/6/04 at 03:50 PM |
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errm, have you considered trying not breaking the law?
[ducks and runs]
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JoelP
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| posted on 13/6/04 at 04:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
errm, have you considered trying not breaking the law?
[ducks and runs]
i never break sensible laws. well, not any more
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MikeR
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| posted on 14/6/04 at 05:39 PM |
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Its quite an interesting subject this. We as a nation decide what we feel is acceptable and base our laws on that. We didn't feel hanging was
acceptable and stopped it. It seems lots of people don't like the way we police speeding, yet, nothing is done about it.
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