phelpsa
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| posted on 17/4/05 at 09:47 AM |
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That nearly happened to us on the motorbike yesterday. Went to overtake a lorry, but couldnt see the 4 cars infront of it, had to squeeze in really
close between cars 3 & 4 to be able to turn off 
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Peteff
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| posted on 17/4/05 at 09:52 AM |
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I always shut my eyes when I go through tunnels as I'm scared of the dark. I don't like motorways and tend to drive in the inside lane
behind an artic for cover and overtake them when they slow down too much. There's nowhere I need to be in a hurry anyway. People seem to see
motorways as some form of competition but they don't realise they will never get to the front despite all their risky manoeuvres, just wee a
few other drivers off. Just remember there may be another Kenneth Noye among them.
edit here:- That's called riding beyond your ability Adam. Ostrich syndrome happens a lot round here with born again bikers. If you can't
see it, you don't assume it's not there. There's an unexpected bollard on the road near us and they start to overtake just before it
then panic.
[Edited on 17/4/05 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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phelpsa
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| posted on 17/4/05 at 10:54 AM |
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And another motorway problem near us is our junction is halfway down the side of a hill, lorries go slow up the hill, when you start to overtake, but
speed up on the way down the hill, catches a lot of people who dont turn off there regularly out.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 17/4/05 at 01:09 PM |
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There does seem to be a general problem with people these days - many don't seem to understand that you can actually lift your foot off the
accelerator. Maybe you'll lose 30 seconds in journey time, but you can actually slow down occasionally and 'go with the flow' -
makes the journey far more pleasant.
Saying that, now that I'm driving my Locost on a regular basis, and the engine is just-about run in, I'm beginning to wonder how long it
will be before I get a ticket... these are real hooligan cars, aren't they!
David
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 17/4/05 at 09:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
That nearly happened to us on the motorbike yesterday. Went to overtake a lorry, but couldnt see the 4 cars infront of it, had to squeeze in really
close between cars 3 & 4 to be able to turn off
ive been there and done that in a car.
at the end of the day, miss a junction, double back at the next, and live the rest of your life.
Id like to think i wouldnt take risks like that with my son on the back of a bike.
atb
steve
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stevebubs
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| posted on 17/4/05 at 09:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
That nearly happened to us on the motorbike yesterday. Went to overtake a lorry, but couldnt see the 4 cars infront of it, had to squeeze in really
close between cars 3 & 4 to be able to turn off
ive been there and done that in a car.
at the end of the day, miss a junction, double back at the next, and live the rest of your life.
Id like to think i wouldnt take risks like that with my son on the back of a bike.
atb
steve
Ditto. Bikes are dangerous enough without taking risks like that. If you can't see, don't overtake.
Rgds
Stephen
(biker and father)
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phelpsa
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| posted on 17/4/05 at 11:02 PM |
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It wasnt dangerously close...... just closer than we would have liked it to have been.
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chris.russell
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 08:42 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
There does seem to be a general problem with people these days - many don't seem to understand that you can actually lift your foot off the
accelerator. Maybe you'll lose 30 seconds in journey time, but you can actually slow down occasionally and 'go with the flow' -
makes the journey far more pleasant.
Slowing down sometimes makes the trip faster.
When I used to live at my old house I had to travel about 12 miles down the A34 each day to get to work, I would normally sit in autopilot behind a
lorry just cruising along at about 60.
A friend who also lived in the same village would drive as fast as he could, say 90mph, but over the 12 mile section, if we started at the same time,
I would generally catch him at the last exit and normally be only a car or two behind him at the end. All due to traffic.
Sometimes it pays to relax (no hard accelerating and sudden braking all the time) and enjoy the drive, plus it saves loads of fuel!
I also think they should sort out lorry's. Nearly everyday there seems to be yet another lorry jack knifed or involved in an accident - is it
because they slip stream each other and sit inches from the bumper infront, tireness, pressure?? who knows
Mines a pint
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phelpsa
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 09:46 AM |
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On the way to school this morning coming up to a roundabout, got into lane and a bmw 3-series zooms up behind us and starts flashing his
lights
Bloody annoying
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 09:53 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chris.russell
Slowing down sometimes makes the trip faster.
I believe very strongly that keeping up a good pace is far more effective than going flat-out everywhere. By this, I mean keeping a good speed
through corners, judging your speed at roundabouts so that you fit in to the traffic without stopping, etc.
Quite a few years ago my daughter's boyfriend of the time used to a rush-everywhere nutter. I once left Ipswich at the same time as them, to
drive the 6 miles home. He screamed away, squealing his tyres, and the last thing I saw was him roaring up the hill.
Got to my house 6 miles later after a brisk but sensible drive, to find that they had just arrived and hadn't even opened their car doors.
David
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flak monkey
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 10:02 AM |
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On short journeys driving like a loony just doesnt make the trip any faster. If you consider the difference between driving at 60mph and 75mph then
thats only an extra 15 miles in an hour, on a short journey of say only 5 miles, the time gained is very small (seconds).
The extra speed only makes a difference on a long journey, but only if you can keep the speed up. You still need to slow down for round-a-bouts,
traffic etc.
So in the course of things driving like a loony anywhere only increases the stress you feel (its hard work), uses more fuel, and you get the bonus of
everyone on the road thinking you are a prick...
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Ian Pearson
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 11:03 AM |
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My girlfriend was driving down the M3 a few days ago, overtook a Volvo, who then decided that he'd drive so close to her that at times she
couldn't see the front grill. He was laughing like a madman apparently. No amount of slowing down or lane changing would get rid of him. In the
end, they parted company at the A303 exit, and she managed to get his number. We thought about reporting him, but decided that the amount of interest
it would generate, would be zero.
Not quite sure what turns these people into demons once they get into a car. There's never a cop car about when you need one!
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Peteff
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 11:25 AM |
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a bmw 3-series zooms up behind us and starts flashing his lights
There's a sensor in the front bumper that automatically flashes the lights when BMW's get within 25 yards of another car, he probably
forgot to switch it off when he left the motorway  .
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 11:58 AM |
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I agree steady flowing driving is just as quick over a short distance say 150 miles especially on A roads. The trip computer on my omega for 3
journeys giving a total of 300 miles on main A roads and dual carraigways only, from town to the city centre and back 3 times. What is the average
speed?
45MPH
and thats sitting at 80 on the dualler.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 12:00 PM |
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If your journeys involve towns/urban roads, it's actually very difficult to average 30mph!
DJ
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Triton
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 12:22 PM |
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Don't care what BMW cars have.....sitting on someones arse at 90odd is stupid because even if i had to brake and missed what ever was in
front.....M3 twat would have made sure i was in the middle of a nice steel n flesh sarnie.......
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Triton
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 12:25 PM |
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Need to weld on an Oval racer style bumper front and rear i think......make em think twice about getting to close.
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phelpsa
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 12:28 PM |
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Or robot wars style spike 
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flak monkey
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 04:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
If your journeys involve towns/urban roads, it's actually very difficult to average 30mph!
DJ
We have a trip computer in our car. The average speed when i come from kings lynn to coventry (105miles) is about 50mph, if you are lucky. Thats
spending the majority of the time cruising at 75ish on the motorway....
My mums run to school in the morning (country driving) the average is about 25mph.
Suprising how low averages speeds are over the course of a journey.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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Simon
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 08:17 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
On the way to school this morning coming up to a roundabout, got into lane and a bmw 3-series zooms up behind us and starts flashing his
lights
Bloody annoying
Amusing incident a few years ago in Aldgate .
BMW driver harrassing bloke on scooter. Both stop at Pelican crossing. Scooter in front. Rider takes off helmet, gobs on bonnet and rides off. BMW
driver sat there stunned.
Well, it amused me.
ATB
Simon
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JoelP
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| posted on 18/4/05 at 09:19 PM |
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cant do that nowadays - DNA tests on your saliva can lead to a prosecution.
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James
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| posted on 19/4/05 at 07:27 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon
Amusing incident a few years ago in Aldgate .
BMW driver harrassing bloke on scooter. Both stop at Pelican crossing. Scooter in front. Rider takes off helmet, gobs on bonnet and rides off. BMW
driver sat there stunned.
Well, it amused me.
ATB
Simon
Saw a peed off biker go alongside a car a few ahead of me in the queue and headbutt the drivers side window! Didn't see what the car driver must
have done to illicit such a response but it must have been a bit of a shock!
James
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"The fight is won or lost far away from witnesses, behind the lines, in the gym and out there on the road, long before I dance under those lights."
- Muhammad Ali
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 19/4/05 at 07:44 AM |
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I once worked with a keen bike commuter - hulking great Cheshire lad, 6'4", afraid of no-one. One day a car was repeatedly crowding him in
traffic - deliberately - when my mate just reached into his tank-bag, brought out a great big spanner, and held it over the car's bonnet. The
driver decided to pull back a bit...
Another story, same bloke: I used to bike in from Chelmsford, he came in from Hertfordshire, and I'd often catch up with him around the North
Circular. One day I saw him in the distance, just as a little FS1E cut him up something rotten. About a mile later I came up to some lights, to see
him holding the FS1E rider by the throat, waggling his finger in the poor bloke's face! You have to picture a 5'6" spotty teenager
being threatened by a hefty great bloke on a BMW, shouting at him in broad Cheshire! Apparently the 'lecture' was about learning to ride
properly, how to survive on busy roads, and the like... but not in those words exactly.
DJ
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phelpsa
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| posted on 19/4/05 at 09:43 AM |
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Some of the best advice I ever got was when i had my 80cc quad bike and went out on the track. My dad asked the owner of the track whether he had any
problems with the 50cc quads being on the track at the same time as the 660cc yamaha raptors, and the owner said 'No, as long as the little kids
stick to what they're doin and dont worry, its the problem of the bigger quads to get around them when it is safe'. Basically, its safer
to just ignore them and stick to what you are doing, leave them to get on with trying to get passed you.
Adam
[Edited on 19-4-05 by phelpsa]
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