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smart51

posted on 17/12/05 at 08:26 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by dave1888
westrife WTF are they all about.


Making money.

record companies are not about making art.

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MikeR

posted on 17/12/05 at 11:54 PM Reply With Quote
Dunno - there is some good 'pop' music out there now.

Hard-Fi are quite good, a poor mans was description i liked. I'll be interested to hear there second album. If they continue as the first they'll run out of steam around track 4 i'd guess.

Bloc Party are very good. From friends who've seem them live they seem to be better in smaller gigs

KT Tunstall is very tallented. I saw her live about 18 months ago. I was disappointed with the album as live she did everything like "black horse cherry tree". It was too much, but with a good producer it could have made an excellent album.

Wir Sind Helden as i've said. You have to excuse the odd track and perhaps i'm only a fan after a fab concert in a small place in London. In fact it was just a fab evening so...... ignore me.

Madona - haven't heard the new album but i do like the tracks i've heard. I will be buying it.

Katie Melua et al - i do like this music. The problem is one person hit the big time (Joss Stone) so record company AR's signed up everyone similar. Standard business practice ....... can't really complain.

Kaiser Chiefs etc .......... can't help thinking this is mostly in the same vein of music!

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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 18/12/05 at 10:10 AM Reply With Quote
born in 81
i really like

Elvis costello
Nick Cave

who i both think are underated.

I saw an interview with Elvis costello regarding the state of british pop. I think it was with Jeremy Vine, anyway he was asked if he thought his music would make it through todays pop climate should he be starting now. He honestly said no it wouldn't, he also said that if he was starting out now it would only be a matter of time before he was up in the clock tower with a rifle!!

He's not everyones cup of tea but theres more to him than Olivers Army





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liam.mccaffrey

posted on 18/12/05 at 10:13 AM Reply With Quote
Mike R i don't agree that Katie Meluahhhh
is anything like Joss Stone, I can't stand Joss Stone where as Meluaghghh is really good IMHO





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Ferg

posted on 18/12/05 at 10:37 AM Reply With Quote
I'm 43 and have seen hundreds of bands over the years from unknown punk bands in '77 through Queen (including the 'We are the Champions' video recording), embryonic U2, AC/DC, Zeppelin etc and am currently enjoying the live spectacular that is Koopa!

http://www.ukbands.net/profile.php?id=15103

I don't have a problem with any music particularly, but recently I've watched Koopa struggle, after continual gigging, to finance their own single and get it up to 40 in the charts. Meanwhile, Son of Dork (James Bourne, Ex-Busted) takes his new band (6 months old) into the ALBUM chart with a clone of New Found Glory even down to the American accents.......
Now that annoys me.

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jonbeedle

posted on 19/12/05 at 04:55 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Ferg
I don't have a problem with any music particularly, but recently I've watched Koopa struggle, after continual gigging, to finance their own single and get it up to 40 in the charts. Meanwhile, Son of Dork (James Bourne, Ex-Busted) takes his new band (6 months old) into the ALBUM chart with a clone of New Found Glory even down to the American accents.......
Now that annoys me.


It's all about making money. Because the Busted guy is well known it means that the record company doesn't have to spend out money to promote him therefore maximising their profit.

One thing should be clear. The type of music is irrelevent. As long as it has been conceived and performed with thought and passion it should be recognised as such, which sadly is not the case with the recycled bilge that is played seemingly on a continuous loop on most radio stations.
I also think that people who listen to only one kind of music are depriving themselves and missing out.
I listen to everything from rock to dance music. I have a preference for jazz and fusion but it doesn't stop me buying Beach Boys music or Chill Out House and Hip Hop. As a musician it would be foolish of me to ignore any type of music because having a good knowledge of different types of music has kept me busy as a musician for many years. I have played all over the world in Heavy Metal bands, Country bands, 50's Rock'n'Roll bands, a Folk group, a Jazz trio, a Pop group and even an Abba tribute.
None of this would have been possible if I had not opened my mind to all types of music. This is only one aspect of it though. By openeing your mind to all types of music you can learn about other cultures and experience different emotions, broaden your horizons and ultimately become a far more interesting person.
So don't just dismiss R'n'B , new or old, as crap, avoid the chart and mainstream stuff and dig out some real R'n'B (the new stuff I prefer to call New Soul). You might be surprised!
There is good stuff out there you just have to find it rather than wait for Big Brother to spoon feed you shite from the radio and TV.
Merry Christmas!
Jon





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marcyboy

posted on 19/12/05 at 05:53 PM Reply With Quote
i like a bit of everything...
afterall variety is the spice of life

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MikeR

posted on 19/12/05 at 06:28 PM Reply With Quote
ok,i came across a little harsh previously. My album collection ranges from trance, to country, to a little jazz to even Elvis singing gospel !!!!

I have listened to some modern R'n'B and some of it is good. But it seems to be 1 song in 100 and when i hear 4 songs one after the other in a club, well, i find something else to do..... like go for a walk, buy a drink anything but dance.

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NS Dev

posted on 24/12/05 at 10:57 AM Reply With Quote
Your just getting too old Mike!!
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marcyboy

posted on 24/12/05 at 11:05 AM Reply With Quote
i like the Elvis "are you lonsome tonight" live...where he cracks up at the female backing singer classic
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MikeR

posted on 24/12/05 at 11:40 AM Reply With Quote
suspicious minds is my favourite elvis song, brillient live.....

and NS Dev - watch it ...... just cause i'm a little older than you!!! I mean i still like all the euphoric trance stuff, its just R'n'B i can't get on with (ok, i can't even figure out how to dance to it!)

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Messenjah

posted on 24/12/05 at 05:16 PM Reply With Quote
someone said cover versions get on their tits maralin mansons version of tainted love is miles better even the person who recorded the ORIGINAL said it was publicly on mtv lol


its not all new music thats crap it just depends what your into some of the nu metal and other stuff is pretty damn good and there are some extremely talented musicians and singers more so musicians then singers at the moment it seems to me but none the less there is some ghood out there its just not overly popular

theres too much silent c music (c)rap

haha and RnB and bollox like that lol

sytem of a down
blink 182
sum 41
GREENDAY (well theyve been around for 16 years but only popular in the last 2)
korn arent too bad a bit shouty screamy tho
funeral for a freind
queens of the stoneage


plenty of other good stuff

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Peteff

posted on 24/12/05 at 05:31 PM Reply With Quote
I painted my chassis with Blink 182, oh sorry, that's Zinc 182. I like Green Day and Franz Ferdinand and some of the skate rock bands are nice and loud, I like loud these days because I think angle grinding has knackered my hearing.
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Simon

posted on 25/12/05 at 01:15 AM Reply With Quote
Chris,

The "family" band that sung with J Ross was Anthony and the Johnsons - I have a CD and EP of theirs and whilst the lyrics are a bit strange, the tunes are fantastic.

In fact I reckon I've listened to them more than anything recently.

As for kaiserchiefs, the first hit I thought was a rip off of Tenpole Tudor.

ATB

Simon






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marcyboy

posted on 28/12/05 at 02:46 PM Reply With Quote
don't remember seeing anthony and the johnson's on johnathon ross ...

but i do remember seeing the magic numbers and they are a family band...

they're ok but i prefer something a little darker

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MikeR

posted on 28/12/05 at 03:56 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by marcyboy
don't remember seeing anthony and the johnson's on johnathon ross ...

but i do remember seeing the magic numbers and they are a family band...

they're ok but i prefer something a little darker


How about if i told you they're an incestious family band and the dead pet poodle gets its share of the action as well?????

(well you said you wanted it darker!)

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JoelP

posted on 28/12/05 at 04:28 PM Reply With Quote
da gorillaz

got the album for christmas, good stuff. DVD would be better though, as their videos kick ass!






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marcyboy

posted on 28/12/05 at 07:05 PM Reply With Quote
i'm not into incest or rituals involving goats or any other farmyard animals
i'll leave that for rebecca loos and some of the folk from certain counties (you know which ones)

but when i said i liked it a bit darker
i meant more gritty...with dirty licks ....
and yes i mean the music,

but i have been known to play the spam castanets

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