jollygreengiant
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| posted on 21/2/07 at 01:28 PM |
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Start with the basics of travel.
Reinstate ALL the railway branch lines (if they have been built over then tough. that attitude works in Europe).
Bring back a PROPERLY funded and regulated bus service.
Regulate & enforce driving laws from the basics.
People can either drive or they can't. If they can then they WILL pass the test within 5 attempts, no more people taking test after test over a
period of 33 YEARS (1 good day of driving in 10,000).
If you fail five times in a row thats it your out for EVER.
Retest every 10 - 15 years.
Loose your licence then you retake the test AFTER ban to get it back.
The majority of the population need to realise that the licence is a privelege and NOT a god given right.
Traffic monitoring would not work. Comercial traffic would virtually ALL be driven to Europe. The government would be unable to equip ALL in coming
continental vehicles with mobile transponders to track movements so they would all come in to this country and travel the roads for free.
Rant over.
Duck & run for cover after comments above
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 21/2/07 at 01:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chockymonsterThe easiest way to reduce congestion is to use road planners that actually drive and have an ounce of
common sense
It could only help
Did any of you hear about the little planning error that they made in St. Andrews Squ. (Edinburgh) a while back
I can't remember the exact details but if you entered it from one road there was no legal way to leave it again !
anyway I think it turned out to have been designed by someone who didn't drive
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donut
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| posted on 21/2/07 at 02:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bob
Andy
If mrs nut works from home she will see exactly what you do all day
I know  There's always a downside to everything
Andy
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
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awinter
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| posted on 21/2/07 at 02:30 PM |
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I'm with the green giant
Subsidised bus travel for all. That will get the buses running to non profit making rural areas and allow a frequent service at peak times.
Schools to setup car/bus sharing schemes for parents to access. This will allow parents to arrange secure travel for children to get to school.
More park and ride services into cities in areas not serviced by branch line trains.
Incentives offered by the government to people that choose to cycle/walk to work paid directly into your wage controlled by employer.
More freight moved by rail.
Better use of our crumbling canal network to move goods. Yes its slow but a 70ft barge with all that surface area could possibly generate enough leccy
to maintain its 4mph speed with a motor to maneuver.
Allan
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greggors84
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| posted on 21/2/07 at 02:34 PM |
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Im sure in Oxford, they plan the traffic lights to cause congestion. They are big on getting people out their cars here. Massive off road cycle lanes
everywhere, pedestrianised town centre, park and ride at every juntion where the ring road meets a main link road.
Its good if you dont want to get anywhere by car!
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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andyps
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| posted on 21/2/07 at 03:22 PM |
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Originally posted by coozer
I remember 100 years ago in Hetton we had electric trams and a train station and no cars...
You went to work at the pit, which was walking distance away and had no need to travel. On the rare occasion you could go on the tram or the train...
Ahhh, the good old days..
How old are you????
My suggestions which would help:
1) Ban trucks from overtaking each other on two lane dual carriageways - how often do you get stuck behind one truck going half a mile an hour faster
than an other and taking miles to pass.
2) Give the bus lanes back to cars until there are buses which people want to use out of choice.
3) Turn off the traffic lights - there are large numbers which have been introduced with the intention of slowing down traffic - or in other words
causing congestion. If these were removed traffic would definitely flow more freely.
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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Bob C
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| posted on 21/2/07 at 05:05 PM |
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We will be priced out of our cars by crude oil prices. The only question is when. Then there will be no congestion problem!
Partly why I'm doing the leccy car (but mostly because of the EEC law compelling my work to give me a recharging point...)
I reckon biodeisel & maybe alcohol & pushbikes will be big, can't see rail (or horses) making a big comeback. Solar powered barges - the
solar cells cost a fortune - they're almost never cost effective - the world definately needs a price breakthrough on photovoltaics.
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RoadkillUK
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| posted on 21/2/07 at 05:09 PM |
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Ah, bus lanes. Only active for 1 1/2 hours on a weekday morning around here, that's 7 1/2 hours a week, but cars avoid them at all times.
I was in London a few weeks ago and the signs there were the same (maybe a bit longer) so I was about the only car using them 
Roadkill - Lee
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Catpuss
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| posted on 21/2/07 at 06:48 PM |
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Force governement/major companies in lodon to relocate (lets face it the gov don't do incentives only forcing these days) to other areas of the
country. Stop being so Darn Saft and London centric so people arn't commuting from Derby to London to work (freeing up more train space). Stops
the lack of water down there too.
Clamp down properly on uninsured/untaxed cars/no driving licence. Build more schools to reduce crowding and the "school run".
Nationalise the busses, put an extra couple of quid a month on council tax and ring fence it for a flat rate of 50p per trip for busses. There is no
point in having public transport that costs 2 to 3 times more that private transport.
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smart51
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| posted on 21/2/07 at 06:54 PM |
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Originally posted by Catpuss
Stop being so Darn Saft and London centric
AMEN BROTHER!
It is the continued London centric attitude of Government, major coporations and everything from the Arts Council to Sport England that has fueled
dacades of net migration to the south east that is responsible for the major housing price increase since the 80s (that spread to the rest of the
country) and water shortage in the driest part of the country.
In the days of the internet and satellite communications, there is no real reason why companies should locate in the south east. Follow the
BBC's lead and head north. You won't have to pay London Weighting then.
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Simon
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| posted on 21/2/07 at 08:46 PM |
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I've always thought we should get lorries off the road. I live in a small town which needs a small fleet of lorries to keep local shops topped
up (Waitrose has about 6 artics a week) when the store in next to the railway - part of their car park is built on what used to be a siding.
Canals could carry the equivalent of a couple of dozen artics, for a fraction of the cost (and pollution - overhead electric supply). If lorries must
use the road, it would be better for everyone if they were used from late till early. Town deliveries would be quicker and more efficient.
Train prices are ridiculous for fare payig passengers. One of the few things I remember from studying economics, was Economies of Scale. I could (in
theory) drive a diesel car to London and back on say three gallons of fuel say £12. I could do the same thing with 4 people on board. Down to three
quid.
Train holds about 1000 people. Costs £12 offpeak, £18 peak. Should be no peak times (or 1st class) and cost should be a quid.
I don't do public transport but when I was in Lux seeing bro we went everywhere by bus. It was cheap, clean, fast and on time. By
cheap, my bro gets a travel card for €30 (£20) a month. He can travel as much as he likes all over the place for that.
ATB
Simon
[Edited on 22/2/07 by Simon]
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clockwork
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| posted on 23/2/07 at 10:42 AM |
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A mate of mine at work has suggested that Ministers and their aides are forced to use public transport standard class, if they wish to move up a class
they pay the difference themselves. For shorter journeys black cab taxis (they are never comfortable). His reasoning: the sooner they realise how
bad the problem is, the sooner they force change. If they don't ever bear witness to the problem on a daily basis then nothing will get
done.
I think he has a point.
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