adam1985
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| posted on 6/7/25 at 12:49 PM |
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From my limited experience with electric cars most of them in that table will be company cars, and every company car owner I've spoken to has had
them for tax reasons, same as the diesel dream they were sold 10-20 years ago. Once we are at a point where majority of the cars on the road are
electric the government will do what they always do and tax them.
Electric cars are fantastic for new car sales and look brilliant on a table but when these cars hit the second hand market nobody wants them.
In my opinion it all depends on your lifestyle and what you use the car for, if its mainly used for shopping or commuting within a city then electric
cars make sense, personally my car isn't used for commuting so i will be staying with a petrol until its not viable.
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Benzine
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| posted on 6/7/25 at 02:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by adam1985
From my limited experience with electric cars most of them in that table will be company cars, and every company car owner I've spoken to has had
them for tax reasons, same as the diesel dream they were sold 10-20 years ago. Once we are at a point where majority of the cars on the road are
electric the government will do what they always do and tax them.
Electric cars are fantastic for new car sales and look brilliant on a table but when these cars hit the second hand market nobody wants them.
In my opinion it all depends on your lifestyle and what you use the car for, if its mainly used for shopping or commuting within a city then electric
cars make sense, personally my car isn't used for commuting so i will be staying with a petrol until its not viable.
Nobody wants them 2nd hand? So we're seeing roadworthy £250/scrap value second hand EVs for sale?
The government have started to tax EVs already, it began in April of this year.
[Edited on 6-7-2025 by Benzine]
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 6/7/25 at 04:03 PM |
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I think it very unlikely that either petrol or diesel engines will be completely phased out by EV's, whether that's for cars or commercial
vehicles. They each have their merits with none able to claim to be the best at everything.
I'm not against any, I have Electric, Diesel and Petrol cars sitting in the drive right now. It will be interesting to see how things progress, I
don't think anyone really knows. From what I have seen on documentary's, both petrol and diesel fuel replacements can now be created without
using fossil bases, whether this becomes economically viable, well only time will tell.
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MikeR
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| posted on 10/7/25 at 11:25 AM |
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Love that this thread has all the history on it.
Currently drive a mild hybrid after fears for going fully electric wouldn't work (which would have been a cheaper second hand purchase). This is
a nice stepping stone for me. In hindsight I should have got the 10kw battery hybrid but didn't like how it seemed to test drive, so i've
got 1.5kw. Love pulling off the drive in electric. Wifes petrol mini will be replaced with a fully electric run around in the next year or two.
I think most people below a certain age (guess approx. 50 - i'm sure some people don't fit in exactly) will have at least one electric car
if they have more than one car in the next 3 to 5 years. Converting the second car will be 5 to 10 years - that might be pessimistic.
The issues will be poorer families running petrol/diesel on a budget and not wanting/affording that initial outlay. It will be a bit like Sam Vimes
boots (Terry Pratchet / Discworld - poor people can only afford cheap boots that last a year and need replacing, rich people buy expensive boots that
last 5 years. Expensive boots cost less over 5 years than 5 lots of cheap boots). Until you get electric cars costing 1k to 5k to buy, you'll
have fossil fuel cars running around.
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MikeR
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| posted on 10/7/25 at 11:26 AM |
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to add to this - what may be the biggest blocker in years to come is the electricity supply not being able to keep up with demand .....
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 22/7/25 at 11:48 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
to add to this - what may be the biggest blocker in years to come is the electricity supply not being able to keep up with demand .....
A rep for the power generation industry said in a public statement that there is no issue with generation/supply for EVs. This is especially true if
owners charge in the wee hours when grid demand is low, but this wasn't thought to be essential. Many electricity suppliers give low tarriffs
overnight to encourage this sort of charging though (I'm with Octopus Energy). On sunny days I can also charge my EV from my solar panels, and
still get paid for what I generate!
IMHO, the thing that will kill ICE cars is the loss of refineries, distribution centres & petrol stations caused by reduced demand, making them
unprofitable. This is already starting to happen. Drivers may find it tough to find fuel at a reasonable price before too long.
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