David Jenkins
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| posted on 28/12/08 at 10:38 PM |
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James Martin in Italy
Did anyone watch James Martin's attempt at the Mille Miglia race on BBC this evening?
Had to feel sorry for the poor bloke...
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blakep82
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| posted on 28/12/08 at 10:43 PM |
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didn't see it. i thought sky said it was james may, i put it on, it wasn't so i switched it off in disgust. even though it never claimed
to be james may... its just the way i am...
what happened?
[Edited on 28/12/08 by blakep82]
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GeorgeM
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| posted on 28/12/08 at 10:47 PM |
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Hi,
yes, watched most of it. Some seriously nice
cars on there. Shame about not finishing.
GeorgeM
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lsdweb
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| posted on 28/12/08 at 10:50 PM |
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Yeah - not a bad programme apart from all the Italian Job tenuous links!
Really sad for him but that's motorsport - expensive though!
Nothing like the original race / rally though!
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MikeR
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| posted on 28/12/08 at 11:01 PM |
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i really enjoyed it - but when i heard what was wrong with the engine i knew it was over. Poor bloke, i can imagine doing the same (although with a
budget about 1% what he had).
I'd have been almost tempted to run it on one less cylinder (just blank off the inlet port so you don't get bore wash - although if
you're taking the head off might be worth taking the piston and con rod out as well).
Has got me thinking about doing something similar and wondering how much a classic lotus 7 would cost to do the real thing.
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jimmyjoebob
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| posted on 28/12/08 at 11:11 PM |
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Was anyone else astonished by the price of pistons - £3k each?
If at first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 28/12/08 at 11:13 PM |
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yea, I'm pretty sure Omega or Accralite would make a set of six specials for less then £18,000
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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cloudy
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| posted on 28/12/08 at 11:24 PM |
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I imagine the engine builder was in rather a lot of trouble...
How did the "racing driver" copilot not rule out "Radiator" ? It took the mechanic to arrive to actually figure out it was
engine related!
James
www.warnercars.com
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the_fbi
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| posted on 28/12/08 at 11:39 PM |
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quote: Originally posted by cloudy
How did the "racing driver" copilot not rule out "Radiator"
In all fairness, she was used to racing an air cooled car
Good prog, I enjoyed it. Hope he goes back next year and manages to recoup his losses.
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eddie99
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| posted on 28/12/08 at 11:44 PM |
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Yeah i saw it, was very interesting.... But felt sad for the guy losing out on that money. I too hope he goes back next year to get his money back
BBC did say James May on the introduction because i noticed that too.. Obviously he misread or had just been watching top gear! :p
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clairetoo
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 12:45 AM |
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I thought it was quite a good program - but I would have shot that mechanic for even thinking about starting an engine with a broken valve .
Since the Maserati place was just down the road , how come they didnt just whip the head off and take it to them ?
And as for £18000 for a set of pistons
Its cuz I is blond , innit
Claire xx
Will weld for food......
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iscmatt
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 01:10 AM |
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interesting people feel sorry for the guy, i couldn't help but think he was a nob head. just didn't like his attitude to cars (or women
for that matter!) just sees them as things to look at, doesn't appear to have any knowledge and proved that by managing to break his brand new
engine after only a few miles.
And as for the co-driver being the mechanic - radiator trouble!?!?! C'mon! The crew offered him another car to finish the race but shame he
didn't take it.
Would have been a much better program if it had of been james may (thats how i first read it too!) I don't think it did james martin's
profile any good.
As a Chelsea fan i always say that money can't buy you trophies - and james martin proved that by not finishing the race no matter how much
money he had - The narrator even said that his money wouldn't save him now.
Glad i was playing monopoly while i watched the program so my time wasn't completely wasted! plus the yorkshire men did good - they had they
right attitude i feel - appreciate being there and what it stands for, not trying to show off and revving the nuts off it all the time.
night night
[Edited on 29/12/08 by iscmatt]
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 07:28 AM |
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i was a bit disappointed,he could have gone for the simple approach like the MGA for a fraction of the price,only redeeming features were the rear end
shots of the two hotties
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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designer
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 08:05 AM |
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I'm sure it will not have cost him a penny. Tv programmes are always well insured (Top Gear, etc), they just put it in for effect.
It's actually cheaper to do such a programme than to make a decent drama. Therefore the muiltitude of 'reality' programmes.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 08:48 AM |
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Yes - he did come across as a plonker with more money than sense - but I think that was the producer's efforts rather than his. As for his
attitude to women... well, he is a yorkshireman! (ducks down behind the parapet and puts on tin helmet... )
I had to grin when the Isetta bubble-car crossed the finish line right in front of him, and he said "I've got one of those! I should have
brought that!"
[Edited on 29/12/08 by David Jenkins]
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fesycresy
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 08:54 AM |
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I thought he came across as a cock too.
Pity, used to like him.
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eznfrank
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 09:54 AM |
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I though it was a decent enough programme, felt sorry for him not finishing the race although if he'd have gone steady he would have done
better. Don't feel sorry for him losing the money though, yeah it was a lot to lose but he must be able to afford it.
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 10:28 AM |
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I thought it was quite funny that he never even finished the first day. It was just full of middle class and upper class twerps and a slightly podgy
"Pilsbury Doughboy" chef!
Don't really like him anyhow. He's a podgy chef who likes to cook cakes for Ainsley Harriets telly programme and look, he's got a
top bird. Why can't people like this see that it's the size of their wallets that got them the woman and nowt else.
Nice car just out of James Martins league though, just like his woman.
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MikeR
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 11:14 AM |
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I did notice how gorgeous & inteligent the women where. I also noticed how the racing driver looked a little like his misses - left me wondering
if he'd try it on.
Also, how did his misses get her hands on that camera / lens. She had thousands of pounds worth of kit around her neck (yeah i'm a camera geek
as well).
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jimgiblett
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 11:25 AM |
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Not really a race nowadays more a parade of pre 1957 cars (James and the producers were really overselling the dangers - he did bruise his knee
though).
Stirling's average speed of nearly a ton for 10 hours in 1955 was very impressive.
Very pleasant pastime and if I had the money I would love to have a go myself. Anyone have a pre '57 300SL they would like me to drive for
them.
- Jim
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 01:17 PM |
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Ah those Italian back roads  
All the money does not make you finish, I cant wait for the next rusty rally.
The roads make up for the expensive campsites in Italy. SP1 is a classic
Bet you if he had a locostbuilder with him or a banger rally man he would have finnished   The car would have to be demolished to not run
[Edited on 29-12-08 by mangogrooveworkshop]
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sucksqueezebangblow
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 02:41 PM |
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The plonker was a victim of his own arrogance and inexperience. He should have developed the car and built his own experience on lesser events before
going anywhere near the Mille. Perhaps he'll do that before the next one, and maybe also get the valves redesigned as it was clear from the book
he bought on the program that valve failure is a common fault with that model.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 02:51 PM |
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I'm sure he knows what he should have done now!
In his position, with his money, I'd have bought a classic British car early on for around £100K (I'm sure that there are a few to choose
from), spent a deal of money fettling it, then used the rest of the year driving a few hundred miles around Yorkshire at a good pace.
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SALAD
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 02:52 PM |
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I was rather dissapointed, it could have been a really good programme about the history of the race/rally but instead it was just an opportunity for
him to look flash. It backfired on him and in my opinion he came out looking like an idiot.
He was more intent on showing off than taking it easy, running the engine in and soaking up the atmosphere of such a historic rally......and not
allowing his other half to co-drive!?! I'm sure many of us would love our SWMBO's to want to be that involved (Must add at this point,
mine is )
The narrator summed it up for me: 'Is James just a boy racer taking part in a gentlemans rally?'
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jimmyjoebob
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| posted on 29/12/08 at 03:23 PM |
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The other thing that surprised me was at the very end of the programme when the narrator said that he would now be unable to sell the car and make a
profit on the car, instead having to wait till next year after it has completed the race. Some people can't seem to just enjoy such an event
without trying to earn from it!
I wonder why they didn't ask the Maserati factory if they could supply parts - surely it would have been great advertising?
If at first you don't succeed, hide all evidence you ever tried!
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