stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 25/3/04 at 11:01 PM |
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The new BMW one series
What do you think of this?
I recon its pretty shyte and does compare to being the bastard child of an alfa and a 7 series.
It will prob sell tho.
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?p=1&f=72&t=88838&h=0
atb
steve
[Edited on 25/3/04 by stephen_gusterson]
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kingr
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| posted on 25/3/04 at 11:13 PM |
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If I had that sort of money to spend on a car, I'd consider it very seriously - I quite like the looks, it's more striking than most of
the other cars in its class, the RWD is a big possitive, it's going to be fantastically built and the dynamics are likely to be well above
average.
Funnily enough I was just thinking to my self "that looks very like an Alfa 147, only a bit more flamed up and a lot more German at the
front", I scroll down the PH page and what does it say : "Looks like an Alfa 147... "
Kingr
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Metal Hippy
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| posted on 25/3/04 at 11:25 PM |
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I was getting ready to say it looks like an Alfa 147 when I saw your reply...
Bugger, beaten to it...
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 25/3/04 at 11:30 PM |
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i and all on the comments also thought it was 147 like.
I get my new 3 in about 10 weeks - a tax friendly 150hp diesel.
The car i have had for 4 years wasnt as bulletproof as the mazda I had before and it still urks me that a 118hp car costs 23k.
the one might be well built compared to some others, but you pay for that.
my wifes 1.6 litre megane drives as well as my 3, has the same power, has more features, and its two for the price of one...literally.
atb
steve
[Edited on 25/3/04 by stephen_gusterson]
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greggors84
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| posted on 25/3/04 at 11:30 PM |
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Saw a preview of it ages ago in CAR magazine (i think). They had the drop top z3 stylee one. Looked alot better than the hatch.
Chris
The Magnificent 7!
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locost_bryan
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| posted on 26/3/04 at 04:23 AM |
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Maybe they just grafted the beemer nose on the 147 
Also looks like a Mazda3, without the sleek styling or interior room...
http://www.mazda3.co.nz/gallery/sedan/11_f2.jpg
... but will it handle and ride twice as well for twice the money? or have as much room?
zoom zoom
Bryan Miller
Auckland NZ
Bruce McLaren - "Where's my F1 car?"
John Cooper - "In that rack of tubes, son"
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 26/3/04 at 08:47 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
The car i have had for 4 years wasnt as bulletproof as the mazda I had before
Not many car manufacturers can match the reliability of Mazda and Toyota! I've had several Toyotas, and they never had any more than regular
servicing while I owned them (mind you, when they DO go wrong... oh dear!).
A friend of mine runs a successful business, and chooses to run either a big BMW or a Mercedes - he des high mileage, and needs top reliability.
Unfortunately, they seem to spend a fair amount of their time in the garage being repaired for basic engineering defects (total gearbox failure,
engine replacement, and so on).
I keep suggesting that he buys a Lexus, but he keeps making excuses - I don't think that they're 'fashionable' in his eyes (or
maybe his wife's eyes - she's the main domestic buyer!).
David
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 26/3/04 at 09:02 AM |
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Funny you should mention the Mazda3 - took one out for a spin last week - a lot of car for your money!
As for this BMW - not really my cup of tea...
their main selling point seems to be - 'its rear wheel drive'
but the mainstream customers that will buy it would be far safer in a front wheel drive car! IMHO of course
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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JoelP
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| posted on 26/3/04 at 09:31 AM |
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i like it, but i strongly feel that i should dislike it. not sure why. It does fit in a niche though, all those people who previously drove the alfa
(and maybe golfs and a3's) can now drive a car that is seen as more up market.
not for me though.
im more than happy with my fiesta diesel.
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ned
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| posted on 26/3/04 at 10:05 AM |
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will this replace the 3 series compact?
when i first read the thread title i was expecting to see a bmw mini, much like the rover 100 was born out of the metro 
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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ChrisW
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| posted on 26/3/04 at 10:09 AM |
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I quite like it tbh but it would be better as a 3 door. The line of the B pillar makes it look like it's twisted in the side shot.
That said, I won't be rushing out to buy one! 
Chris
My gaff my rules
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 26/3/04 at 10:19 AM |
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strange that in the review forum it was almost universally slagged off, but on here Im the only one to vote its naff!
aving said that, if it was the only beemer I could have i'd consider it 
atb
steve
PS
on my mazda, in 70k, all that went wrong was a bearing making a squaky noise in the air con pump.
In the beemer, I have had 2 cooling system failures, a total aircon failure and 3 suspension bush / joint failures in 90k.
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Noodle
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| posted on 26/3/04 at 10:24 AM |
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Never had a Beemer. No real desire to own one either.
However, it's rear-wheel-drive in a cost-accountants world.
'Nuff said 
Cheers,
Neil.
Your sort make me sick
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andyps
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| posted on 26/3/04 at 10:51 PM |
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Take an Alfa 147, add a few creases and other unnecessary lines, there you are - a BMW 1 series. At least any accident damage won't show up
much.
Ned - yes, it will replace the compact, but is probably bigger than the original 3 series compact anyway.
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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Simon
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| posted on 27/3/04 at 12:47 AM |
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"The car i have had for 4 years wasnt as bulletproof as the mazda I had before and it still urks me that a 118hp car costs 23k"
http://www.jamjar.co.uk/carbuying/search/buying_searchresults.jhtml;jsessionid=CI3ULJIIQEBWHQFIJAGCFFI?_requestid=459141
So what if it costs you £400/month tax, it'd cost me nearly £600 month over three years on an interest free (ulikely) loan!!
ATB
Simon
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Peteff
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| posted on 27/3/04 at 12:08 PM |
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I don't like it much
My nissan van is rear wheel drive and has all the latest gimmicks like two speed wipers and handles to wind the windows up and down. If it went
faster,wasn't so noisy and the heater worked it would be perfect. I only voted cos I didn't want to be left out.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 28/3/04 at 12:20 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon
"The car i have had for 4 years wasnt as bulletproof as the mazda I had before and it still urks me that a 118hp car costs 23k"
http://www.jamjar.co.uk/carbuying/search/buying_searchresults.jhtml;jsessionid=CI3ULJIIQEBWHQFIJAGCFFI?_requestid=459141
So what if it costs you £400/month tax, it'd cost me nearly £600 month over three years on an interest free (ulikely) loan!!
ATB
Simon
Its actually about 275 a month.
The 320d touring im getting is a much better deal. If I take cash instead of fuel, it will just cost me 107 quid a month in tax. And the diesel is 25%
more powerful and 2k less value.
When I looked at opting out completly, its a struggle to buy a 13k car for the cash I was offered - which was 650 quid each month. Sounds stupid, but
when you do the math....
atb
steve
[Edited on 28/3/04 by stephen_gusterson]
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andkilde
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| posted on 29/3/04 at 07:43 AM |
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It's pretty awful, looks a lot like a Mazda Protege5, which I also detest.
Someone mentioned spectacular build quality earlier, err not in my experience. If you want something that runs forever, Toyota and VW have my vote
(though I hear the recent VWs are spoiling their reputation a bit).
The one BMW we had was great fun to drive, big torquey six and a five speed. Got horrible mileage though and broke spectacularly on a weekly basis,
rotted in the strangest structural places as well.
AND, I'll never forgive those kraut b*stards for what they did to my Mini! 1200 pounds heavier, a foot wider, two longer with a pathetic
wheezing overstressed single overhead cam engine sourced from Chrysler Brazil? At half the price it'd still be a damn site too much. All those
Prozac munching Automotive Toadies (ersatz journalists) lining up to praise it ought to be ritually disembowelled with a stick pen, mutter, mumph,
mumble...
Cheers, Ted
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