woodster
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| posted on 15/10/09 at 09:09 AM |
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white working class ....
is this a real problem or one made up by the press ....
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/oct/14/denham-white-working-class-resentment
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richardh
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| posted on 15/10/09 at 09:13 AM |
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definately a real problem
Time for a change!
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woodster
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| posted on 15/10/09 at 09:17 AM |
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i was shocked to see the list of places the government think theres a problem and that in Leicester the whites are a minority
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Irony
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| posted on 15/10/09 at 09:42 AM |
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Having grown up in leicester and am now living in Lincoln (both are mentioned) I would say it is a very real problem! Not just in the jobs market
either. I know of several pubs that you just 'don't' go in if your not of the right ethnic minority.
I was also on a bus the other night in islington when a group of lads got on and annouced they were the Romainian Mafia and everyone on the bus should
lower there eyes.
Yes I would say its a very real problem.
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Peteff
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| posted on 15/10/09 at 10:13 AM |
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We were recently talking to a white woman from Bradford whose child had been allocated a school which is 97% Pakistani Muslim and in the bottom 3% on
the performance list. He has now been reallocated to a school 8 miles away which she is happy to accommodate. Why has the situation been allowed to
get to this stage is what should be the question.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 15/10/09 at 10:20 AM |
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course it,s real (unless you live on another planet like a lot of politico,s) and the only reason they are supposedly doing something now is the
looming election,in which they will get slaughtered.
they are running scared of the likes of the BNP,Joe average has had enough and will be voting for them,even some of the
"ethnics"(Indian/west Indian) long term residents of this country i speak to have had enough 
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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scootz
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| posted on 15/10/09 at 10:45 AM |
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A very real problem... don't know if anyone else on here watches Pat Condell's YouTube uploads - how he's still alive I'll
never know, but he speaks a lot of sense and his tongue-in-cheek humour at least lightens the subject matter.
Black, white, brown, yellow, christian, muslim, jewish, buddhist, sikh, atheist, whatever... you're born and bred or you've just
arrived... who cares... your first priority should be to accept you're now BRITISH! You obey the laws of the land, you support your fellow
citizens and you treat each other with respect - you don't like it? THEN **** OFF!
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02GF74
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| posted on 15/10/09 at 11:10 AM |
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scootz - not sure if I am misunderstanding or you .... but it appears that this money £ 12 M, whcih BTW they might as well flush down the pan for
all the good it will do, is being allocated to white British folk.
these are the folks that are undeducated and unskilled and resent the fact that some foreign born national is working in low paid job for money that
they won't work for and rather claiim benefit.
the job is there as seomeon is doing it but they won'tfor the money so in their eyes, the foreigners are stealing the jobs.
£ 12 M isn't going to change any of that.
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eznfrank
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| posted on 15/10/09 at 11:18 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Irony
I was also on a bus the other night in islington when a group of lads got on and annouced they were the Romainian Mafia and everyone on the bus should
lower there eyes.
What sort of cheap ass mafia get the bus!!! I think I'd find it hard not to p1ss myself laughing if that happened
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scootz
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| posted on 15/10/09 at 11:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
scootz - not sure if I am misunderstanding or you ....
I'm just having a general rant about 'Broken Britain' - yes, I agree entirely that it's a waste of money!
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Dusty
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| posted on 15/10/09 at 12:31 PM |
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quote:
it appears that this money £ 12 M.. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. is being allocated to white British folk.
If only. It will be allocated to educational programms to try to get them to stop whinging about the deal they get.
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A1
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| posted on 15/10/09 at 03:14 PM |
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there is a problem...im not sure its the white folk getting pissed off at the likes of the aforementioned romanians.
its not bad up here, but its getting worse.
its basically 12m to stop us having freedom of speech.
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Andi
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| posted on 15/10/09 at 11:28 PM |
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There is only one enemy group.
The owners of the country (whoever they are)
The faceless mega business men across all political structures.
The ones who sold out our factories, jobs and lives to 3rd world countries who manufacture at budget cost for maximum profit.
Then let their minions fight it out.
Its not you, I, Ali or Afghani.
Is it?
All about dosh n power folk 
[Edited on 16/10/09 by Andi]
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 08:10 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
these are the folks that are undeducated and unskilled and resent the fact that some foreign born national is working in low paid job for money that
they won't work for and rather claiim benefit.
the job is there as seomeon is doing it but they won'tfor the money so in their eyes, the foreigners are stealing the jobs.
Here here! This "stealing our jobs" thing has been running through the terminally unemployed for what 40 years? I resent paying taxes to
keep them in beer
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02GF74
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 09:57 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Andi
The ones who sold out our factories, jobs and lives to 3rd world countries who manufacture at budget cost for maximum profit.
hmm, if only it was as easy as that.
joe public must sharethe blame too - we, myself include want to go to the shops/internet and buy stuff as cheaply as possible.
would you pay £ 1,000 for an UK manufacturered Audiolab amp or £ 500 for the same but made by 6 year old chinese orphans?
Rover has gone but how many of us had bought a Rover? I hadn;t but did get close on a 220 trubo 
Bottom line is about getting the public to buy and price is one of the most important criteria.
I don't like the outsourcing of jobs to the third world but what can I do?
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 10:47 AM |
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Yeah reminds me of when Primark got in trouble for using sweat shops to make cheap clothes, one woman interviewed said (cue stereotypical dumb essex
accent) I don't care I just want cheap clothes
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 01:07 PM |
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Yeah reminds me of when Primark got in trouble for using sweat shops to make cheap clothes, one woman interviewed said (cue stereotypical dumb essex
accent) I don't care I just want cheap clothes
but,what would the kids do for money/food if they didnt have those jobs?prob starve and remember £1 will go a lot further in china/india etc and they
get a roof over their heads
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 01:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
but,what would the kids do for money/food if they didnt have those jobs?prob starve and remember £1 will go a lot further in china/india etc and they
get a roof over their heads
Go to school? The charities in Ethiopia are gunning that angle "Ntobl walks 40 miles a day for some water, your £2 a month means he could have a
well in his town, and books for the school we'll build"
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wilkingj
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 02:02 PM |
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The WHOLE problem is very simple. There are just TOO MANY PEOPLE in the world.
In the last 40 years the population has gone from 4Bn to 6Bn people.
That is putting a strain on ALL resources, jobs, food, water, oils, etc etc etc.
People have it hard in what ever country they live in, and we ALL percieve that the Grass is Greener somewhere else. Now in some cases, IT IS Greener.
Especially if you a Romanian, or Polish, or Tibetan, or whatever place you come from (no particular contries selected there just ramdom ones
chosen).
Life in the UK, is often a LOT better than in some countries, hence they try to migrate here (legally or otherwise).
There is NO EASY answer to the problems of the country OR the World.
If the solution was that easy, the current Gov't would implement it, and solve the problem. Everyone would Cheer, and re-elect them in for
another term. ANY Party would do that as it would ensure their stay in power (and their wages / income)
It isnt that easy or they would do it straight away.
NONE of the political parties have the answer.
I believe it will eventually lead to a massive war, thus reducing the population again to manageable numbers.
That is EXACTLTY what happens in nature with animals and territories / hunting grounds etc.
The population explosion is a REAL problem.
The Chinese are one of the few countries who recognise this problem, and are trying to do something about it. However that has led to all sorts of
other problems, like killing off baby girls, leading to an imballance of the sexes 20 years on etc etc.
As I said.... there is NO easy answer.
You CANT please ALL the People ALL the Time.
Simples <chk>
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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JoelP
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 02:44 PM |
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in a nutshell there geoff.
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gazza285
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 02:59 PM |
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What we need is a nice plague, to which all the people dear to me are immune, as well as the Guinness brewers and associated trades, the undertakers,
and the chef from my local curry house.
DO NOT PUT ON KNOB OR BOLLOCKS!
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 03:07 PM |
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Give me a sniper rifle, I'll thin the population!
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JoelP
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 03:44 PM |
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part of our problem is that we all want to live forever, its going to get much worse in future as medicine keeps us alive longer. Serious birth
control is needed.
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