Benzine
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 05:21 PM |
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Rant in E Minor
I'm not usually one to rant but...
Just got home from a nice trip into town (Melton Mowbray). I noticed something on my windscreen, a parking notice!
Me, my girlfriend and my son parked in a council pay and display car park. My girlfriend has a disabled blue badge so we displayed it on the dash. She
couldn't find the clock dial anywhere (for those of you who don't know, you spin the dial until it reads the time you arrived. With a blue
badge you have 3 hours from the time of arrival)
So we got out a pen and some paper and wrote "clock lost, arrived @ 14:35" (for those of you who don't know, we wrote down the time
so it displays what time we got there)
After 20 mins parking we got a ticket for "Parked in a car park without clearly displaying a valid pay and display ticket or voucher or parking
clock"
Info on above image: time of arrival, to be used with a blue badge
Info on paper: time of arrival, used with a blue badge.
Srsly, wtf 
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Flamez
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 05:25 PM |
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I understand the need for dedicated places for blue badge holders in relation to size of parking space and accessibility etc. but can anyone explain
to me the logic for free parking?
Disabilty has no correlation with the ability or not to pay?
my build mac1motorsports
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Theshed
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 05:28 PM |
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May just have some correlation on the need - rather than wish - to use a car? Ever seen a wheelchair on a bus - nuff said
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Benzine
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 05:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Flamez
Disabilty has no correlation with the ability or not to pay?
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Flamez
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 05:32 PM |
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I have seen modern buses designed for wheelchairs but alas I have never seen them used, but I don't use buses much either.
I really do understand and agree with the need but am at a loss over being treated differently regarding paying for parking.
my build mac1motorsports
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Benzine
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 05:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Flamez
I really do understand and agree with the need but am at a loss over being treated differently regarding paying for parking.
*sigh*
There are so many reasons I can think of but here's a quick one:
Able bodied person parks up in town, walks around and is done in less than an hour.
Disabled person arrives and then spends much more time in town due to accessibility, speed, or hundreds of other reasons (depending on what the
disability is) So they should pump more money into the machine because they can't do what they need to in town as quickly as an non-disabled
person?
[Edited on 16/10/09 by Benzine]
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 06:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Flamez
I have seen modern buses designed for wheelchairs but alas I have never seen them used, but I don't use buses much either.
I really do understand and agree with the need but am at a loss over being treated differently regarding paying for parking.
Perhaps it has to do with the fact that they can't earn a decent living and have to get by on benefits, which since the early seventies are less
than 50% of what they used to be in terms of buying power.
Perhaps if we didn't waste untold millions on futile wars, giving it to foreign nationals etc. they could afford to pay to park and keep
everyone happy...........
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 06:04 PM |
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As a mobile person even I get it. Parking is increasingly restrictive as you approach the centre of town both in availability and cost. I get round
this by taking the bus, train or cycling into notts.
If you have reduced mobility you dont have these options (im not interested in making people struggle to cope with public transport aimed at the able
bodied i.e. fixed pick up and drop off points, getting on and off, access at busy times) ideally you need to be as close to the centre of town as
possible which requires a car.
This requirement to drive and park definitely should be offset to allow everyone equal freedom. I mean I even think 3 hours is harsh if someone has
mobility problems and they have to go shopping!
eta - Im also with confused on the need for financial support issue.
eta take II - back to the initial point... WHAT A C*CK, they have no flexibility or intelligence. I dont care what people say about Traffic Wardens -
it takes a particular kind of person to go into a job he/she knows every hates.
I got one 2 weeks ago, which I did something quite naughty with. I wont go into details as its on going but I would not have ticketed me in a million
years.
[Edited on 16/10/09 by cd.thomson]
[Edited on 16/10/09 by cd.thomson]
Craig
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r1_pete
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 06:07 PM |
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Challenge it, hopefully you'll get a sensible hearing, rather than the jobsworth gestapo who managed to sum up enough intelligence to issue the
ticket.
Most councils have outsourced the ticket touting and they are self funding, so make their money from the tickets....
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Benzine
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 06:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
I mean I even think 3 hours is harsh if someone has mobility problems and they have to go shopping!
Yeah, I often have to move the car to another car park due to the 3 hour limit, everything takes much longer
quote:
Originally posted by r1_pete
Challenge it, hopefully you'll get a sensible hearing, rather than the jobsworth gestapo who managed to sum up enough intelligence to issue the
ticket.
Most councils have outsourced the ticket touting and they are self funding, so make their money from the tickets....
Yeah will definitely contest it and win  just a bit mad this happened at all!
[Edited on 16/10/09 by Benzine]
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woodster
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 06:28 PM |
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i'm sure when you appeal it will be sorted out i know people who have had tickets drop of the screen and other misunderstandings that have had
appeals with happy endings .... good luck don't stress over it.
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Andi
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 06:46 PM |
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I had one using my blue badge not long ago.
I had put the badge upside down (sieg heil)
And they couldnt read my number properly.
I contested and won. All they asked is for a photocopy of the badge. No doubt you will just have to produce some clock evidence at some point.
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dogwood
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 07:07 PM |
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You do not need to display a clock in a carpark, because you are not on a restricted time.
you only need to display your clock if you are parked on yellow lines, because you are ristricted to 3 hrs..
Check the rules that came with the blue badge.......
David
FREE THE ROADSTER ONE…!!
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morcus
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 07:11 PM |
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That really is mad, surely writing down the time and using the wheel show exactly the same thing so should be interchangable.
r1_pete hit the nail on the head, No form of security or similar should fund itself through punishing rule breakers, its unethical and promotes the
Idea that people will never be able to behave themselves.
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scootz
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 07:26 PM |
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Bloody outrageous... someone needs their arse kicked (hard!).
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Andi
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| posted on 16/10/09 at 08:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dogwood
You do not need to display a clock in a carpark, because you are not on a restricted time.
you only need to display your clock if you are parked on yellow lines, because you are ristricted to 3 hrs..
Check the rules that came with the blue badge.......
David
Actually thats quite right come to think of it.
There are some carparks that have a clause in the rules saying to the effect "Blue badge parking only permissible when tax disc states nil
amount" ie gets mobility.
[Edited on 16/10/09 by Andi]
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 08:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
Bloody outrageous... someone needs their arse kicked (hard!).
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 10:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Confused but excited.
quote:
Originally posted by Flamez
I have seen modern buses designed for wheelchairs but alas I have never seen them used, but I don't use buses much either.
I really do understand and agree with the need but am at a loss over being treated differently regarding paying for parking.
Perhaps it has to do with the fact that they can't earn a decent living and have to get by on benefits, which since the early seventies are less
than 50% of what they used to be in terms of buying power.
Perhaps if we didn't waste untold millions on futile wars, giving it to foreign nationals etc. they could afford to pay to park and keep
everyone happy...........
First off, I am NOT disagreeing with disabled parking, I am however going to have a rant about abuses off said system.
Surely if a person is 'that' disabled then they would not be driving a porsche 911, as I spotted in a wiatrose car park a while ago.
Also a disabled badge is required to be displayed with ALL elements CLEARY displayed, these are the rules as were accepted when the disabled badge was
obtained.
Disabled bage parking is NOT a god given right to park ANYWHERE at ANY TIME. merely to allow you to say I am disabled, please give me consideration
providing I have not parked in a dangerous or obstructive manner. It does not give people the right to park on a junction corner, on a Taxi rank,
across vehicle exits, or other stupid places.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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Jasper
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 10:31 AM |
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Here's my rant over disabled parking - make all disabled people get checked by an independent NHS doctor, NOT a private doctor. Both my parents
have blue badges, and certainly one of them doesn't need it (temporary back injury, now much better), and really nor does the other (Polio when
she was young, now has a slight limp), but guess what, given by their private doctor.
Your should see it around The Lanes in Brighton, loads of top of the range cars, including sports cars like Porsches all with blue badges, all parked
their all day long while they go and run their successful jewellery businesses, and I guarantee you every single one of them was given by their
private doctors.
Rant over 
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 11:26 AM |
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IMHO
i cant believe people are having these rants on this thread.
You dont know Benzine, you dont know his girlfriend.
Keep your generalised daily mail opinions away from his situation, start a new thread if you like.
Craig
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Peteff
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 11:43 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
IMHO
i cant believe people are having these rants on this thread.
You dont know Benzine, you dont know his girlfriend.
Keep your generalised daily mail opinions away from his situation, start a new thread if you like.
He put it out there and everyone is entitled to an opinion, Daily Mail or otherwise and the right to air it on a forum just as he is entitled to his
rant.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 11:55 AM |
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I'm pretty sure the comment was on outrageous ticketing rather than anything to do with the blue badge.
Craig
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Jasper
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 02:38 PM |
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If your talking about me then my rant wasn't aimed at him as you can see, I'm just sharing his ranting thread to have my own rant on a
related topic, the use of blue badges. I think it's called freedom of speach.
I absolutely think qualifying people should have blue badges AND free parking, if fact my best mate has cerebral palsy and I'm always out in his
car ranting about the general publics abuse of blue badge spaces. And I'm sure Benzine's girlfriend counts as a qualifying person.
If you're not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room.
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 05:04 PM |
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and IF you are refering to mine, I have NO problem with those who deserve it and use it properly, I do have a problem with people who abuse the system
or interfere with my right to earn a living legally because they think the blue badge gives them carte-blance in ANY situation.
Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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scootz
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| posted on 17/10/09 at 07:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jollygreengiant
Surely if a person is 'that' disabled then they would not be driving a porsche 911 as I spotted in a waitrose car park a while
ago.
Utter shite! Why not?
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