woodster
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 09:03 AM |
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best excuses for .....
something you've spent thousands on and it still won't work
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/biology_evolution/article6879293.ece#
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RichieW
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 09:09 AM |
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They should stick it on Ebay as an "Unfinished project".
"New house and baby forces sale".
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richardlee237
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 09:16 AM |
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Niels Bohr (father of quantum theory)quotes
“There are some things so serious you have to laugh at them.”
“If anybody says he can think about quantum physics without getting giddy, that only shows he has not understood the first thing about them.”
Quote Lord Kelvin
“Large increases in cost with questionable increases in performance can be tolerated only in race horses and women.”
Quote Richard Lee
"and cars"
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 09:25 AM |
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Note that this story has a spoiler in it for 'Fast Forward'!
(not that I'm watching that)
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tegwin
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 09:27 AM |
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Sounds to me like there is an insider sabbotaging the equipment and then blaming it on "god"
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Davey D
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 09:47 AM |
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Great scott! dont mess with the time space continuum 
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 09:54 AM |
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Or an experiment so complex it’s just very difficult to get it to work first time.
At first I thought this was to do with the rather a lot slower than expected progress of the commercial hot nuclear fusion reactors that boffins are
still not getting to work for more than a few seconds after decades and many billions spent on them
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roadrunner
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 09:55 AM |
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But if the Boson could travel back through time to stop it self from being created then surely it would realise that it must have failed , because if
it succeeded in stopping itself then it wouldn't be in the future to then go back and destroy itself.
Are you with me.
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 10:03 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RichieW
They should stick it on Ebay as an "Unfinished project".
"New house and baby forces sale".
99p starting bid
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 10:13 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by roadrunner
But if the Boson could travel back through time to stop it self from being created then surely it would realise that it must have failed , because if
it succeeded in stopping itself then it wouldn't be in the future to then go back and destroy itself.
Are you with me.
exactly, a Star Trek plot would explain it as when the Boson stops the experiment it creates another alternate universe where the partial never
existed hence it is no longer a paradox. Though how a simple particle is meant to know how to prevent a hugely complex experiment happening is even
more ridiculous. Sometimes things just simply break and neither god or a particle had nothing to do with it.
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Agriv8
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 10:14 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
quote:
Originally posted by RichieW
They should stick it on Ebay as an "Unfinished project".
"New house and baby forces sale".
99p starting bid
1, Due to size buyer collects
2, cash on collection
3, sold as seen
4, 13amp plug suppled
regards
Agriv8
Taller than your average Guy !
Management is like a tree of monkeys. - Those at the top look down and see a tree full of smiling faces. BUT Those at the bottom look up and see a
tree full of a*seholes .............
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scootz
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 10:20 AM |
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Could it be that something complex that's never been done before just happens to have some teething problems???
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 10:23 AM |
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nope, definitely particles "abhorrent to nature" travelling back in time and wilfully damaging the machine... :|
I don't care how eminent the physicists are, they've definitely not done the maths for all that waffle!
Craig
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SALAD
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 10:57 AM |
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FlashForward spoiler has dissapointed me.
I am mildly miffed......no no, moderately miffed.
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Findlay234
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 11:13 AM |
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Yeah i dont understand how we all are overly excited when the engines weve built work first time when we were actually expecting a long drawn out
process, or when you build something at home and it doesnt work first time and you have to work through some issues, or an experiment you did for your
uni dissertation didnt work and youre going to have to repeat it.....
BUT.....
when (probably) the most complicated experiment ever devised, to create a substance that not only might not exist but might actually exist and not
exist at the same time in the future and in the past and right now that gives everything mass but may not have any mass of its own, breaks down we cry
about devinely intervention and it being a waste of money.... All science and research could be argued as a waste but then high end research like this
isnt just about the boson itself its also about the research that has gone into the equipment needed which may have furthered, for example,
superconductor technology which could in turn make the computers you use in 5 years time work faster to keep abreast of the software desires of the
user.... of course superconducter technology wont make you build your locost faster which youll still be building in 5 years time.....
cheers
PS, i dont know anything about the boson so my ideas about its characteristics are my own fiction.
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morcus
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 12:20 PM |
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I can't get to the article but I read about it in the paper.
I just have to ask, Why would a really small particle travel through time to stop and experiment and how? and why would an all powerfull God who can
do anything care about colliders and particle physics? Besides, Floods and earthquakes are more his thing
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02GF74
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 12:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by morcus
God who can do anything care about colliders and particle physics? Besides, Floods and earthquakes are more his thing
... don't forget about famine.
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morcus
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 12:38 PM |
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Good point.
unbelievably, particle physics and quantum theory are completely absent from the bible.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 07:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Findlay234
Yeah i dont understand how we all are overly excited when the engines weve built work first time when we were actually expecting a long drawn out
process, or when you build something at home and it doesnt work first time and you have to work through some issues, or an experiment you did for your
uni dissertation didnt work and youre going to have to repeat it.....
BUT.....
when (probably) the most complicated experiment ever devised, to create a substance that not only might not exist but might actually exist and not
exist at the same time in the future and in the past and right now that gives everything mass but may not have any mass of its own, breaks down we cry
about devinely intervention and it being a waste of money.... All science and research could be argued as a waste but then high end research like this
isnt just about the boson itself its also about the research that has gone into the equipment needed which may have furthered, for example,
superconductor technology which could in turn make the computers you use in 5 years time work faster to keep abreast of the software desires of the
user.... of course superconducter technology wont make you build your locost faster which youll still be building in 5 years time.....
cheers
PS, i dont know anything about the boson so my ideas about its characteristics are my own fiction.
This is where normal language gives up and goes to the pub...
quote:
Originally posted by morcus
unbelievably, particle physics and quantum theory are completely absent from the bible.
So am I... In fact so are cars, jam, spiderman, Spandau Ballet, Concorde
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morcus
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| posted on 22/10/09 at 09:59 PM |
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Thus, by the Irving method, they don't exist.
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