omega0684
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 11:39 PM |
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Increase the speed limit
Apparently in Utah they put the speed limits up for a study & they found that there was no increase in incident rate.
full report HERE
Maybe we should e-mail this to the transport minister and the speed authorities!
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blakep82
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 11:42 PM |
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of course there wasn't. even look at german autobahns. if they're safe enough for the germans...
it would also reduce congestion too. cars would all spend less time on the road job done
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MautoK
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| posted on 29/10/09 at 11:57 PM |
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Utah has 27 people per sq mile and outside SLC it's probably about 5. Probably only see another car every other week!
England has over 1000 per sq mile
He's whittling on a piece of wood. I got a feeling that when he stops whittling, something's gonna happen. (OUATITW/Cheyenne)
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owelly
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 12:28 AM |
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You lot are sooooooo September 2009...
I've just driven up the M1 and I can safely say that the motorway speed limit for the UK is well over 100mph. I was doing (around) 70mph with
two rows of cars in the outer two lanes travelling a feck site faster!!!
Obviously October 2009 is the new speed limit month.
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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blakep82
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 01:47 AM |
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lol if the speed limit was put to 100mph, we'd all still be doing 110 
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Macbeast
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 02:17 AM |
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The tree-huggers would object to the increased emissions and carbon tyreprint.
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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A1
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 03:34 AM |
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the tree huggers are just ignorant fools... differant engines have differant economic speeds.
100mph on the motorway sounds good. the inside lanes can be for the hippies.
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 05:56 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by A1
the tree huggers are just ignorant fools... differant engines have differant economic speeds.
100mph on the motorway sounds good. the inside lanes can be for the hippies.
Slightly OT but I did find it both interesting and amusing - I
was reading an industry digest yesterday which said that although used 4x4 ownership in the UK was down, sales of used 4x4s has actually increased as
more and more traders are now exporting. This is mainly due to large UK stocks (caused by stigma, taxation and fuel costs) and the weak pound. A great
victory for the tree huggers! - emissions obviously aren't such an issue if you end up moving them to a different part of the same bl**dy
planet!
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 07:04 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
lol if the speed limit was put to 100mph, we'd all still be doing 110
I dont think i would on parts of the M25. When i was in germany, i was doing 115 on a concrete section (like part of the 25) and the back end was all
over the place 
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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mad4x4
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 07:11 AM |
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Problem is people in this country don;t know how to drive ont he Motorway / Dual Carriage way.
Every night I travel home and find people sitting in the fast lane at 50-55 Mph leaving the Slow lane empty 
Scot's do it better in Kilts.
MK INDY's Don't Self Centre Regardless of MK Setting !
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 07:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4
Problem is people in this country don;t know how to drive ont he Motorway / Dual Carriage way.
Every night I travel home and find people sitting in the fast lane at 50-55 Mph leaving the Slow lane empty
That's because there
is no incentive to move over. On the autobahn, an A8 doing 150mph and getting larger in your mirror encourages you to change back fairly quickly. At
certain times they also restrict HGVs to the inside lane only (which is nice!)
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smart51
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 08:05 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
of course there wasn't. even look at german autobahns. if they're safe enough for the germans...
it would also reduce congestion too. cars would all spend less time on the road job done
The Germans are far better drivers than us by all reports. They have better lane discipline. They don't tailgate so much and they get out of
the way if a faster car is behind them.
Higher speeds reduce the capacity of roads to carry large volumes of cars. Studies show that the largest number of cars per hour a road can carry is
20 MPH and it gets steadily worse the faster you go.
Accident rates in Utah were probably not affected by the speed limit change as it is one of the most empty US states. Here, motorway traffic has such
a bad tailgating habit that 70 MPH can't really be justified. Increasing the limit may not lead to more collisions but there will certainly be
more cars involved each time there is a crash.
There would need to be a big increase in the standard of driving here before an 80 MPH limit could be introduced.
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smart51
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 08:07 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Richard Quinn
quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4
Problem is people in this country don;t know how to drive ont he Motorway / Dual Carriage way.
Every night I travel home and find people sitting in the fast lane at 50-55 Mph leaving the Slow lane empty
That's because there
is no incentive to move over
Other than courtesy, good manners, driving skill and respect for others?
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smart51
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 08:19 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by A1
the tree huggers are just ignorant fools... differant engines have differant economic speeds.
True but irrelevant. Mostly, petrol engines are at their most efficient at an RPM a little lower than peak torque with a throttle opening of around
70%. Diesels are a bit different. What has that got to do with road speed?
A car's demand for power goes up with speed. 1 MPH faster = more power required. Engine load and gearing ratios mean that there is a peak in
efficiency which can be as low as 20 MPH in small diesels but is often more like 30 or 40 MPH depending on your car's aerodynamics and gear
ratios. Nobody's car is more efficient at 100 MPH than at 70. It can't be done.
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 08:26 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
The Germans are far better drivers than us by all reports. They have better lane discipline. They don't tailgate so much and they get out of
the way if a faster car is behind them.
Il second that. They also only use the fast lane for overtaking. As soon as they are past they pull in until they catch the next car. Same as the
french.
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 08:30 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
Nobody's car is more efficient at 100 MPH than at 70. It can't be done.
My tintop is more efficient at 80 than it is at 70 which i find a bit strange. Iv calculated it loads of times as i didnt beleive it. Average about
28mpg at 70 and 34 at 80.
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 08:35 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
The Germans are far better drivers than us by all reports. They have better lane discipline. They don't tailgate so much and they get out of
the way if a faster car is behind them.
Better lane discipline applies to most of the continent to be honest, but you do tend to get more utter bellends making ridiculous manoeuvres at high
speed IME, e.g. cutting across two lanes of trafic to make the exit causing a sea of brake lights and soiled underwear.
Also tailgating at 100+mph is pretty stupid when it's clear the car(s) in front are blocked, but this is absolutely commonplace.
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Peteff
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 08:52 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
the limit may not lead to more collisions but there will certainly be more cars involved each time there is a crash.
Isn't that the same as more collisions ?
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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scootz
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 08:59 AM |
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I agree that our motorway driving standards here are appalling !
I have literally driven the length and breadth of continental Europe and it's a breeze... the minute you get back in Blighty it's
snarl-ups for no apparent reason and the majority of cars all wanting to be in the offside lanes, but unable to make progress because they can't
organize themselves!
Net result... we all end up going at 50mph!
As said before, the greatest incentive in Germany for getting out of the way on the unrestricted Autobahns is seeing a fast Audi, BMW or Merc cruise
ship bearing down at you at warp speed 10 and flashing it's xenons at you
They're not shy at flashing you out of the way too!
It's Evolution Baby!
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02GF74
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 09:24 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by scootz
As said before, the greatest incentive in Germany for getting out of the way on the unrestricted Autobahns is seeing a fast Audi, BMW or Merc cruise
ship bearing down at you at warp speed 10 and flashing it's xenons at you
They're not shy at flashing you out of the way too!
we get that her from white van drivers and it is inevitably in situations where there is a queue in traffic in front of you so what do they gain?
nothing.
what do you loose? bieng force to make unnecessary lane change and lane changing probalby is the cause of a lot of accidents.
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02GF74
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 09:26 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Macbeast
The tree-huggers would object to the increased emissions and carbon tyreprint.
although the emissions may increase, the journey time and henceforth the time the increased emissions are emitted decreases.
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scootz
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 09:31 AM |
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What the bloody hell is that song in your signature???
It's Evolution Baby!
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scootz
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 09:32 AM |
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Ah, 'Release the Bats' by The Birthday Party!
It's Evolution Baby!
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 09:58 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by smart51
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Quinn
quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4
Problem is people in this country don;t know how to drive ont he Motorway / Dual Carriage way.
Every night I travel home and find people sitting in the fast lane at 50-55 Mph leaving the Slow lane empty
That's because there
is no incentive to move over
Other than courtesy, good manners, driving skill and respect for others?
Traits that have pretty much disappeared within the UK (not just
related to driving either!!)
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smart51
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| posted on 30/10/09 at 10:07 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
quote:
Originally posted by Macbeast
The tree-huggers would object to the increased emissions and carbon tyreprint.
although the emissions may increase, the journey time and henceforth the time the increased emissions are emitted decreases.
Eh? Emissions PER MILE increase. Time is irrelevant.
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