contaminated
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:15 PM |
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Death Penalty (e.g. Gary Glitter)
Who's watching it now? What are your views?
This has caused much heated debate in my house. My wife would hang him (and others) in a shot. My view is that although I think people like that are
scum, I just can't agree with the death penalty. My reasons are:
1. You just never know (unless caught red handed);
2. I fail to believe there is not a better use of a human life (no matter how evil);
3. It would put the UK back decades;
4. It would turn us into the US;
5. I don't believe that a life senetence is a life sentence in the UK. Surely put that right first before introducing death?
Any views?
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mark chandler
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:22 PM |
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Lock them up throw away the keys, no need to kill them.
What really pisses me off is that stealing from an institution such as a bank will deliver a bigger sentence than murder!
You can replace money and goods, not life and limbs
[Edited on 9/11/09 by mark chandler]
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nick205
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:29 PM |
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I don't agree with captial punishment pretty much for the reasons above.
BUT...I have enormous issues with the cost to the rest of us for housing and keeping these people alive and healthy.
How can it be right that good people people are being denied healthcare options in the UK when we spend millions upon millions running a penal system
which doesn't show a positive net result....?
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contaminated
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:29 PM |
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I totally agree.
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dogwood
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:31 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
What really pisses me off is that stealing from an institution such as a bank will deliver a bigger sentence than murder!
[Edited on 9/11/09 by mark chandler]
Totally agree with you Mark.
Think the answer for phedos is simple..
SNIP,SNIP job done
David
FREE THE ROADSTER ONE…!!
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BenB
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dogwood
quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
What really pisses me off is that stealing from an institution such as a bank will deliver a bigger sentence than murder!
[Edited on 9/11/09 by mark chandler]
Totally agree with you Mark.
Think the answer for phedos is simple..
SNIP,SNIP job done
David
I don't think paedophiles need vasectomies
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dogwood
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:34 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BenB
I don't think paedophiles need vasectomies
OK ....SNIP,SNIP,CHOP......
Then there will be no doubt
[Edited on 9/11/09 by dogwood]
FREE THE ROADSTER ONE…!!
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contaminated
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by BenB
quote:
Originally posted by dogwood
quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
What really pisses me off is that stealing from an institution such as a bank will deliver a bigger sentence than murder!
[Edited on 9/11/09 by mark chandler]
Totally agree with you Mark.
Think the answer for phedos is simple..
SNIP,SNIP job done
David
I don't think paedophiles need vasectomies
Agreed - but castration?
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dogwood
quote:
Originally posted by BenB
I don't think paedophiles need vasectomies
OK ....SNIP,SNIP,SNIP.....
Then there will be no doubt
Err, what have their Tonsil's got to do with it? 
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dogwood
Totally agree with you Mark.
Think the answer for phedos is simple..
SNIP,SNIP job done
David
Two bricks would be a better solution...
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Wheels244
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:39 PM |
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Genuine question to you guys above ^^^
Do you have children ?
ANYBODY who touched my daughters will receive the death penalty - but it won't be delivered by a court !
Get real people - if we had proper deterents for these perverts instead of the holiday camps ( prisons ) we send them to we might see a reduction in
this perverted scum.
Wonder what little Madelaine MaCann's parents think ????
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britishtrident
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:42 PM |
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Bunch of non-conformist missfits :-)
You guys must be the only ones not watching Flashforward. ;-)
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
[/I]
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JoelP
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:45 PM |
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guys, there is no shortage of humans out there. And there are plenty we could do without. I think there are definately cases where people should be
shot/hung/cut to pieces as appropriate. Start with Vanessa George, then work your way through the list of ANYONE who has killed someone without a good
reason, or demonstrated themselves to be unconstructive 
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contaminated
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Wheels244
Genuine question to you guys above ^^^
Do you have children ?
ANYBODY who touched my daughters will receive the death penalty - but it won't be delivered by a court !
Get real people - if we had proper deterents for these perverts instead of the holiday camps ( prisons ) we send them to we might see a reduction in
this perverted scum.
Wonder what little Madelaine MaCann's parents think ????
That's exactly my wife's argument. I fully admit that if I in anyway knew the victim my view would change, but to sanction the death
penalty legally would be chaos surely. In the above truly horrible situation you'd become a super sensitive plaintiff and therefore not capable
of making a rationale judgement?
Don't get me wrong - I'd do 6 months to smack the f**ker up - but that's my price to pay - not the country's.
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contaminated
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:49 PM |
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Oh, and I have two kids and the wife is a childminder. Also now I'm starting to think hang the bugger! But then...
[Edited on 9/11/09 by contaminated]
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 10:54 PM |
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i strongly believe that crims should not cost the taxpayer, can't decide what we should do about pedos though. not sure death is right
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expatkiwi
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 11:07 PM |
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Not so long ago unknown to me a "toucher and groomer" entered my circle of friends.
None of us knew this persons past(obviously) and life continued as normal.
This person has now gone away. Basicly this person is back inside for breach of parole. Now here is the freaky part and I will try and keep it simple
but clear.
The condition of this persons release in the first place were that they could have an email address but could not go on social network sites. I can
understand that, I am a fair and rational person and even though wrongs have been done in the past this person still has a right to comunicate.
However when said person went on a social network site they went "away" again.
Also this person was meant to have a gaurdian where ever they went. So unknown to me I was taking this person to the odd place not knowing that i was
an escort/gaurdian. What would have happened if they were found up to no good and I was the gaurdian.
If this person ever comes near me again this fair and rational man will dish out the mother of all hidings.
Oh yeah I have a 6 year old daughter a 2 year old boy and this person has been in my house.
The unfortunate thing ladies and gents is that there is no escaping it, we for the sake of our precious little children just have to be as
loving,protective and vigilant without suffocating them and letting them enjoy life freely
I have decided to call my Westfeild "The Caterhammer" Hopefully it will
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mark chandler
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 11:16 PM |
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Yes I have children, I did not watch the program BTW, not something I wanted to see.
The question was related to the death penalty, personally I think being locked up for life is worth than death, the problem is that in this country
life imprisonment does not mean that.
I also believe that prison type should reflect the crime.
Yes we have open prisons but the really hard ones have now gone.
Yes its bloody expensive, and for my money I would have something on the lines of:
pre-meditated murder and paedophiles, it would be solitary confinement and hard labour for life
Damage people, mentally or physically then something harsh but on a scale, starting as above, you can absolutely ruin someones life without killing
them.
Steal money/goods, make them pay it all back through controlled work if its just plain theft, no need to chop hands off.
Death
To easy
Impossible to reverse
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blakep82
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| posted on 9/11/09 at 11:47 PM |
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i don't think glitters music was that bad...
this is pretty terrible though (don't click if you're going to be offended by some bloke on your computer screen...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuDHETtYOAE
[Edited on 10/11/09 by blakep82]
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ashg
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 01:06 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nick205
I don't agree with captial punishment pretty much for the reasons above.
BUT...I have enormous issues with the cost to the rest of us for housing and keeping these people alive and healthy.
How can it be right that good people people are being denied healthcare options in the UK when we spend millions upon millions running a penal system
which doesn't show a positive net result....?
i would rather pay the taxes to have them locked up out the way than have them walking the streets
positive result = scum off the street. in my line of work i have had to go into a lot of prisons working on staff computer systems trust me they are
not nice places at all.
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
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morcus
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 01:50 AM |
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I personally don't think capital punishment is a good idea. The biggest problem with making capital offences is that juries will be less likely
to convict if they think the person will recieve an inproportionate punishment (This happened in the past when stealling a loaf of bread could get you
hanged or deported).
I do think corporal punishment is a good idea as it'll do more than some of the fines and short sentances for alot less work. I also think
Prisoners should be forced to work in a way that generates money, how is unimportant.
If capital punishment were reintroduced, I don't really think paedophillia should be a capital offence, repeat offenders maybe but I don't
think its the answer. To be honest, a person should only be in public if they are safe and Paedophiles should be put into hospitals like broadmoor
until they are no longer dangerous. Castration wouldn't neccessarilly help as it doesn't always change the mental processes that cause
people to interfere with kids.
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A1
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 02:45 AM |
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if we lock them up though, we pay for them.
there are some cases where putting a bullet in them is the best way. doesnt put us back or anything, cause you do it very sterile-ey. dont make a big
thing out of it, just do it.
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expatkiwi
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 06:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by expatkiwi
Not so long ago unknown to me a "toucher and groomer" entered my circle of friends.
None of us knew this persons past(obviously) and life continued as normal.
This person has now gone away. Basicly this person is back inside for breach of parole. Now here is the freaky part and I will try and keep it simple
but clear.
The condition of this persons release in the first place were that they could have an email address but could not go on social network sites. I can
understand that, I am a fair and rational person and even though wrongs have been done in the past this person still has a right to comunicate.
However when said person went on a social network site they went "away" again.
Also this person was meant to have a gaurdian where ever they went. So unknown to me I was taking this person to the odd place not knowing that i was
an escort/gaurdian. What would have happened if they were found up to no good and I was the gaurdian.
If this person ever comes near me again this fair and rational man will dish out the mother of all hidings.
Oh yeah I have a 6 year old daughter a 2 year old boy and this person has been in my house.
The unfortunate thing ladies and gents is that there is no escaping it, we for the sake of our precious little children just have to be as
loving,protective and vigilant without suffocating them and letting them enjoy life freely
Sorry sometimes i forget myself and to proof read before I submit( did that on the wedding vows also .lol)
This person has gone back inside and I think several things
1) lock him up and throw away the key
2) shoot him stone dead
The thing is we will all agree to disagree.
Loves and hugs
Brian
I have decided to call my Westfeild "The Caterhammer" Hopefully it will
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jeffw
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 07:00 AM |
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Would it still be OK to execute kiddie fiddlers if it was done 20-30 years ago and the fiddler in question is a Catholic Priest ? If so there
wouldn't have a lot of the clergy left now (if you believe the press).
What about the nursery assistant in Plymouth ?
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scootz
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| posted on 10/11/09 at 07:36 AM |
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Haven't had time to read the thread or research the subject matter, but I saw the words 'Death penalty' and 'Gary
Glitter' in the thread title!
YES!
It's Evolution Baby!
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