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| posted on 7/1/10 at 11:48 PM |
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Kill it, Cook it, Eat it
Have been following the series of this programme on bbc3 just wondered if anyone else has followed it and what their views were on the 8 people
involved?
Personally i didnt like the attitudes of some of them towards where their meat comes from and how their slaughtered, i think their attitudes would
change if they were shown the methods used in intensive farming
I like meat, but wish we could give more respect towards our animals before slaughter!!
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Fatgadget
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 12:01 AM |
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Well,I havent followed the program but i reckon should one be really hungry with no prospect of an easy meal,all ethics would go straight out the
window.
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Benzine
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 12:05 AM |
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i don't think the majority of meat eaters could kill what they eat
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blakep82
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 12:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
i don't think the majority of meat eaters could kill what they eat
nope. i do like my meat, but i don't want to know what it was before. obviously i know beef comes from cows etc, but i wouldn't want to
see a cow walking about a field, then eat it for dinner that night
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corrado vr6
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 12:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Fatgadget
Well,I havent followed the program but i reckon should one be really hungry with no prospect of an easy meal,all ethics would go straight out the
window.
I agree if this was the case, but is it right that a lot of our animals go through hell before slaughter??
This programme and others alike really opens my eyes to what is involved in the process of meat, i know it will always happen and i could never be a
vergetarian but just feel we could give better conditions to the animals that feed us!!
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 12:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Fatgadget
Well,I havent followed the program but i reckon should one be really hungry with no prospect of an easy meal,all ethics would go straight out the
window.
Let's be honest, we are just cave men in suits.
If it ever hits the fan big time, we will be eating our neighbours kids by the end of the week.
Think of an ASBO as a menu suggestion.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 12:23 AM |
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I prefer to know where my meat comes from and for that reason always buy met from local suppliers and smaller butchers where there is traceability.
Chrystella is rather tasty though. Is that shallow? This is a serious conversation isn't it, sorry
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Madinventions
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 12:38 AM |
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Local is best - the supermarkets have got a lot to answer for.
I sometimes get rabbits, hares and pigeons from the local farmers in return for fixing their computers etc. There's also a whole lamb in the
freezer which I went to vist regularly while he was growing. We named him Larry, and he tastes great. 
What really gets me is the amount of food that people waste, and the tendency of many to always eat chicken and not try anything else. When was the
last time anyone tried something different like Partridge, Goose, Venison etc?
Kill it, cook it, eat it. Just don't treat it like cr@p beforehand!
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[Edited on 8/1/10 by Madinventions]
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scootz
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 03:33 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
i don't think the majority of meat eaters could kill what they eat
Spot on!
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907
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 05:57 AM |
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Yesterday morning I cut the breasts off a brace of pheasants.
Washed and cut them into 1" cubes and placed them in the fridge.
By 5pm they had found some mates, carrot, swede, parsnip, celery and a couple of taters,
and hidden in a cast iron pot that just happen to be on top of the gas ring.
A while later five "swimmers" came by and dived in to save them.
Alas, by 7 all had perished. 
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 07:58 AM |
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I have a small problem with fish heads and guts, but that's just I'm a bit nesh that way, as for catching/killing/butchering my dinner,
then I would be 100% fine with that. I wouldn't say that I'm bloodthirsty at all, more a respect of the animal that's going to be
feeding my family etc. I do not willingly buy products that could come from mis treated food sources or disreputably aboittoirs (sp) etc...
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 08:19 AM |
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Coming at this from a different angle - I don't believe in game bird shooting for sport - especially when the shot birds get burned or buried
after because no-one wants to buy several hundred pheasants in one go.
However, I would be happy to go out and shoot 1 or 2 birds (or rabbits, or whatever) for the pot.
It's a matter of respect for the animal, as far as I'm concerned. We are carnivores and we eat meat (the majority, anyway), but
there's no reason to treat the animals badly, or as things to destroy.
[Edited on 8/1/10 by David Jenkins]
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BenB
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 08:42 AM |
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Not sure if this is a new series or a re-run of the old one but personally I don't eat anything I couldn't kill. I think it's
incredible hypocritical when people eat meat but can't watch how it's produced....
The whole "meat is murder" thing is silly. Of course it is, but it's socially acceptable murder (at the moment anyway).
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mcerd1
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 09:34 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
but i wouldn't want to see a cow walking about a field, then eat it for dinner that night
yeah, cause you sould hang it for at least a couple of weeks if not a month 
quote:
Originally posted by liam.mccaffrey
I prefer to know where my meat comes from and for that reason always buy meat from local suppliers and smaller butchers where there is
traceability.
I'm with you on that one, but I have to admit that most of my chicken comes from the supermarket
beef's a different story, there are still plenty of good butchers round here
but when I can I'll get it from my uncle - I can even ask him what its name was
[Edited on 8/1/10 by mcerd1]
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ashg
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 09:47 AM |
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which series are you watching?
the first series they put a restaurant on the side of a slaughter house. the diners watched the animal be slaughtered then brought to their plate
the second series they went out hunting and slaughtered their own animals.
i can never understand why people think this program is so controversial. they are just dramatising the fact that animals are killed every day for
meat. news flash its been that way since the beginning of time.
the only difference now is that the process has been mechanised to cope with the demand of all the winging twats that think its wrong!!
go back 100 years and show the same program and i doubt anyone would have a problem.
its all these new age do gooders causing the problem. they say the farmers are cruel but then they think killing the animal is cruel so i wouldnt say
they are the best placed mind to judge the situation.
im not a fool i know cruelty does occur out there on some farms/slaughter houses, but as with everything there are always people that are bad eggs
doing things incorrectly that tar everyone
to have meat something has to die. if you over humanise the animal you intend to eat you will never feel comfortable with killing it for food.
i don't have a problem killing anything i eat. its not something that is fantastically enjoyable by any means but its something that has to be
done.
personally i have always felt a small gilt every time i have killed anything but have always felt at rest by the fact that it has been killed to eat.
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twybrow
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 10:13 AM |
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Respect to the naimal is key - which means giving it a great life, stressing it as little as possible during the slaughter process, and eating every
edible part of the animal.
The vegan chap on that shpow needs a bloody good slap, as he is preaching about how wrong eating meat is - well buddy, look at your teeth, and tell me
why yours look nothing like a sheeps - we are omnivores by design, and hence should eat anything!
One ofg my p[et hates is the fact that most animals now have to be transported for considerable distance, as there are fewer and fewer slaughter
houses. IMHO, if farmers were able to bring in a slughterman/the kit to do it on site, that would take a great deal of stress out for the animal.
the most important point to take away, is buy British. We have virtually the best animal welfare regulations, and IMHO, therefore the tastiest meat.
Anyone who buys Danish pork needs to understand what they are actually eating. Not nice.
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Peteff
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 10:31 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Madinventions
What really gets me is the amount of food that people waste, and the tendency of many to always eat chicken and not try anything else. When was the
last time anyone tried something different like Partridge, Goose, Venison etc?
Kill it, cook it, eat it. Just don't treat it like cr@p beforehand!
Ed.
A friend of mine brings us a brace of pheasant when he goes shooting, we don't eat chicken as it doesn't taste of anything and is a weird
texture. My wife skins them and it worries me that she enjoys doing it
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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mookaloid
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 10:57 AM |
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Not seen the show myself but I wouldn't have a problem killing something before I eat it - I have done many times in the past.
I do agree that animals should be treated with respect and that they should experience as little distress as possible before slaughter.
Buying British is best of course which I always do and usually buy from my local butcher which has a notice outside saying which local farm the days
beef has come from.
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skinned knuckles
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 11:04 AM |
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i fish a lot and eat most things i catch that are within size, i shoot a lot (pigeon, pheasant, rabbit, duck) and eat everything i kill and i also
grow my own veg
i feel more guilty about eating the veg because i have raised it from seed that i do about an animal i havent met before.
my lifestyle saves me a fortune in food bills and me and my family eat very good fresh food, un-processed and organic (although i'm not allowed
to call it organic without it being tested)
all i need to do now is pack in my 40 a day smoking habit and bring my drinking down to a reasonable level and im sorted.
Anyone on here in to home brewing and want to give me a few tips?
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mcerd1
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 11:29 AM |
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don't start with the organic stuff, I think I know where your coming from (and I've no problem with that)
but there are alot of nutcases out there who think organic is the answer to everything - as if normal farms in this country just throw on as many
chemicals as possible
most farmers I know avoid using any more than they need to, apart from anything else there is alot of red tape and cost involed
quote:
Originally posted by skinned knuckles
Anyone on here in to home brewing and want to give me a few tips?
I can't find it now, but I was given a recipe for making large batches of home brew in a washing machine
(lots of similar ones on google  )
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oldtimer
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 12:15 PM |
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I don't do it now, but in the past I regularly shot and ate my evening meal whilst living in Australia. Rabbit and kangaroo were very popular
meals and all the animals had a good life and knew nothing about their impending demise. It is not bloodthirsty to eat the animal you kill for food.
Hunting for sport I do not feel so comfortable about.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 01:19 PM |
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I often buy meat from the supermarket because it is cheap. Does that mean that I don't respect the animals?
Those of you who buy meat from local butchers - how many of you actually know what kind of life the animals have had? My guess is you believe
what the butcher tells you.
The price of a reasonably sized chicken can vary from £2 to £20. I have absolutely no idea what sort of life any of the chickens at each end of this
scale have had. If I believe my butcher, I could pay £20 for a chicken which would have cost me £2 at the supermarket.
The only way to know for sure what sort of life your meat has had, is to breed it, kill it, cook it and eat it yourself. Or become a veggie. But
vegetables have feelings too
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mcerd1
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 01:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Those of you who buy meat from local butchers - how many of you actually know what kind of life the animals have had? My guess is you believe
what the butcher tells you.
I do - they buy most of it from the farms round here (inc. my uncles place)
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Hellfire
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 05:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Those of you who buy meat from local butchers - how many of you actually know what kind of life the animals have had? My guess is you believe
what the butcher tells you.
I do - they buy most of it from the farms round here (inc. my uncles place)
Apart from the meat they sell to you?......
How do you actually know where it's from? Is it marked somehow? Do your chickens have three legs perhaps?
[Edited on 8-1-10 by Hellfire]
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bob
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| posted on 8/1/10 at 05:50 PM |
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Im fine with Kill it, Cook it, Eat it, i found both series very interesting,i would certainly kill my own dinner as like others i really would like
to know where its from and how.
I was more upset about murdering several good servicable sierras to build my car
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