Ninehigh
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 04:52 PM |
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It gets better
I'm going to have to leave my second job in 2 years because I have morals...
I've been moved to a site that's due to be knocked down, and the site owners have requested that 2 guards are on at nights and weekends.
I've been on my own today, which doesn't bother me, except for my boss phoning me up asking me to "change your handwriting"
and sign him in.
I've only been at this place a week now and I'm thinking the best way to do this would be to innocently ask the site owner "Do we
need two of us in on weekends? Cos there was 2 of us on Saturday and just me on Sunday"
Unless any of you sneaky weasels have got any better ideas 
Oh and the "having to leave" bit (this really takes the biscuit). They want us to do a good job so we keep the contract (you know, by
lying, stealing etc!)
Good job this is MY computer and they can't find me 
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gavin174
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 04:57 PM |
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Ask your boss if he's going to pay you the second mans wages.
If not don't do it. He can't sack you for being honest.
http://www.essexkitcarclub.com
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gavin174
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 05:01 PM |
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What would happen if you called in "sick".
If the client is paying for 2 there should be 2 there
If they did a spot check I bet your boss would say you and your "mate"
Were in it together.
http://www.essexkitcarclub.com
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 05:10 PM |
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Yeah that's a good point. I wouldn't mind but if I was in their shoes I'd just apologise and tell them there wasn't enough
people in our company available to cover it (which is probably the case) and not claim for a second person.
I can't lie also on the basis of what do I say if the site owner comes in? Do I say this other guy's on a patrol? What then when
he's not back after an hour and a half, we'll be out looking for someone that was never there in the first place!
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gavin174
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 05:19 PM |
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You are in a no win sitiation...
If your company does not have enough employees they should not have taken the contract.
Personally I would work the shift on my own, but would not sign someone else in
That would be committing fraud.
http://www.essexkitcarclub.com
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 05:22 PM |
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That's what I'm doing
My point is that we're supposed to be "doing a good job" so we keep this contract, without which I'm likely to be out on my
backside, and they pull stunts like this.
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omega 24 v6
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 05:53 PM |
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I wouldn't sign him in either. It's just wrong plain and simple. If you get the sack the a tribunal would be an option of clearing your
name. So unfair to ask this of you.
If it looks wrong it probably is wrong.
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YQUSTA
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 06:26 PM |
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I would have thought you are at great risk.
There is a H&S issue being on your own.
If you were to fall over or even worse how would you get help?
For instance you were doing a walk around you slip on some ice your mobile smashes into pieces.
If there were 2 of you your 'mate' would/should wonder where you are after x amount of time and come looking, but on your own your could
be dead by the time some one finds you.
If I were in your situation I would tell my boss that I am not going to sign anyone else in as it is fraud and if he askes me again I would report him
to his Boss. Along with asking for someone else to be sent to site as it is a 2 man job.
Good luck whatever you decide.
"If in doubt flat out"
Colin McRae
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jacko
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 06:35 PM |
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Isn't the idea of having two guards so they can watch each others backs [ safety ]
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designer
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 06:57 PM |
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LEAVE, AND QUICK!
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Richard Quinn
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 07:12 PM |
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What if there is a fire on site and the fire bobbies (as they do) use the signing in sheets to check for people not accounted for. Would you be
comfortable putting people's lives at risk trying to save people who weren't actually there?
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r1_pete
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 07:33 PM |
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A word to THESE folk would seem in order, see if you can arrange a spot check whilst you're on your own....
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JoelP
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 08:21 PM |
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very good point about the fire service...
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Canada EH!
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 09:51 PM |
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I train Security Guards for a small company here in Canada.
You are leaving yourself wide open for safety and legal infractions.
Ask a patrolling supervisor to attend the building while your boss is AWAL, and ask their advice.
My reactions would have your boss replaced very shortly.
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skinned knuckles
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| posted on 21/2/10 at 10:07 PM |
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rock and a hard place. you have a job when others around you are facing layoffs every day.
i'd tell your boss you won't commit fraud for his company to make a few quid. but that you are still happy to carry out the work you are
contracted to do. just the mention of fraud should be enough to secure your job for the future and be enough for your manager to prioritise your site
if there is ever a shourtage of security in the future.
as an employer, alarm bells start ringing if an applicant seems to be changing jobs very often, regardless of the reasons given. hang in there but
speak to your sureriors.
A man isn't complete until he's married, then he's finished
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morcus
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| posted on 22/2/10 at 02:58 AM |
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Tell your boss your not comitting fraud, and also tell him If he ever asks you to again that your going to blow the wistle. TBH I'd be straight
on to someone higher up if I was in your shoes, you can't get sacked for refusing to break the law and if they tried you could sue for
compensation.
Keep a detailed record of everything like this, exact dates and times, and phone records if you can. This could come back on you with serious
concequences if your not careful.
[Edited on 22/2/10 by morcus]
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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