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scootz

posted on 21/2/10 at 10:16 PM Reply With Quote
National Bullying Hotline...

Couldn't really care less if Brown goes on strops or shouts and swears at his staff... I'll bet Downing Street is as full of the same 'computer-says-no' generation of staff as the rest of the country has to suffer!

Anyway... onto the National Bullying Helpline!

Putting confidentiality aspect of their role aside, how unprofessional is it to voluntarily go public that 3 people have called them regarding bullying in Downing Street!

They even go as far as to define the sex of one of the callers!

Smacks (to me) of someone wanting to raise their own personal profile!







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posted on 21/2/10 at 10:42 PM Reply With Quote
looks likr the worlds gone mad disease and too many do gooders.

The staff should have got the job done. As for confidentiality thats not something our government departments seem to have got to grips with so no probs with disclosure for the staff. At least it takes the heat off John Terry





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craig1410

posted on 21/2/10 at 11:40 PM Reply With Quote
Personally I fully support the statement made by the representative of the bullying hotline. She made it clear that she was only making the statement to counter the nonsense that Mandelson came out with earlier, trying to dismiss the whole bullying thing.

I can easily believe that Brown is a complete nightmare to work with. He has none of the charisma nor persuasiveness of Blair and it is high time he stood aside and let someone who actually knows how to be a leader instead of a dictator lead the party.

That said, I'll be voting for Cameron - definitely time for a change of government and to my mind Cameron is a far better prospect than 5 more years of Brown!!

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GreigM

posted on 22/2/10 at 08:35 AM Reply With Quote
I agree with craig - it is the helpline's role to support the victim. By standing up against the spin and denial they are supporting the victim and saying that bullying is not acceptable, regardless of how powerful the bully believes themselves to be. If they had said nothing the staff would have been victims all over again. I applaud the helpline for their stance- after all does anyone really believe this DIDNT occur?
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kendo

posted on 22/2/10 at 09:50 AM Reply With Quote
There may well have been 3 people who've contacted the helpline but it doesn't mean it actually happened!

I work amongst civil servants and frankly they don't live in the real world. Someone could easily have got a rollicking for f'ing up, and lets face it there have been plenty of f'ups, and simply couldn't take it. They think they are completely unaccountable for their actions, so if they get pulled they go crying to mummy!

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posted on 22/2/10 at 09:53 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
I can easily believe that Brown is a complete nightmare to work with.


Agreed

quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
definitely time for a change



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Originally posted by craig1410
of government and to my mind Cameron is a far better prospect than 5 more years of Brown!!


Erm, are you sure? Brown is all out of good ideas, Cameron has never had one. The end result is much the same.






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pewe

posted on 22/2/10 at 09:53 AM Reply With Quote
Charity linked to a commercial enterprise (run by the chairperson's husband) which sells counselling to those who've been bullied- smells pretty whiffy to me?

Doesn't do a lot for the credibilty of the charity.

Are the Charity Comissioners aware of such a link I wonder?

And no I not a particular favourite of one GB, less so Lord Liar but it really does trawl the depths when hearsay and innuendo take second-place to hard facts but I suppose that's the nature of 21st Century politics.

And before the barrack-room lawyers jump in that's my personal opinion expressed in the spirit of free speech, freely, without duress etc. etc. and all that cobblers.

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fesycresy

posted on 22/2/10 at 10:07 AM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by kendo
There may well have been 3 people who've contacted the helpline but it doesn't mean it actually happened!

I work amongst civil servants and frankly they don't live in the real world. Someone could easily have got a rollicking for f'ing up, and lets face it there have been plenty of f'ups, and simply couldn't take it. They think they are completely unaccountable for their actions, so if they get pulled they go crying to mummy!


I agree.

I've contracted for local authorities. Dealt with one guy who if you fuct up he would let you know. Then it would all be forgotten, he was straight as a die and you knew where you stood, a good honest gut to work with. He just didn't want the same mistakes happening again.

He had a divorce and when he was having time off to sort it out, three of his staff got together and put in bullying complaints.

They didn't like a rollocking everytime they messed up and they were good at messing up !

From the OP I agree that the Bullying helplines should remain totally confidential.





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posted on 22/2/10 at 10:45 AM Reply With Quote
I'm very clear in my mind that this is politically motivated!





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swanny

posted on 22/2/10 at 11:00 AM Reply With Quote
it does smell a bit odd for a charity to be issuing such statements.
their focus should be on their core work, not getting involved in politics, whether its rebutting spin claims or not.
personally having worked for one or two interesting bosses the out shout when people had fuxed up never hurt anyone.
totally agree with the civil service comments though i'm sure there are lopts of great ones out there, knowing you will never be sacked means complacency is inevitable. budget cuts wont change this, my wife worked for a council and saw the most horrfying shocking instancxes of 'thats not my job' from people who had effectively sat on their arses for 10 years not really doing anything, and had been taking my council tax for all that time.

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norfolkluego

posted on 22/2/10 at 12:28 PM Reply With Quote
As a motorist I'd like to report Gordon Brown for bullying
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will121

posted on 22/2/10 at 01:08 PM Reply With Quote
i wonder how many phone calls there would have been if the bullying hot line existed when Maggie Thatcher was in power!!
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scootz

posted on 22/2/10 at 01:13 PM Reply With Quote
... or Churchill!





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posted on 22/2/10 at 01:15 PM Reply With Quote
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i wonder how many phone calls there would have been if the bullying hot line existed when Maggie Thatcher was in power!!


At least she had some leadership qualities and a lot of charisma... Brown has neither!

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scootz

posted on 22/2/10 at 01:30 PM Reply With Quote
A charity at the centre of the Gordon Brown bullying row has been dealt a blow after one of its patrons resigned - accusing its boss of breaching confidentiality.

Professor Cary Cooper, a celebrated expert on workplace stress, said he had sent an email to Christine Pratt in the previous hour telling her he was resigning as a patron of the National Bullying Helpline.

He said: "I am resigning now on the grounds that I think she breached confidentiality. One of the things that is really important for any helpline or any counselling service is to retain confidentiality of the people calling up."

The breach that Prof Cooper refers saw Mrs Pratt, the founder of the National Bullying Helpline, revealing on sunday that its helpline had received several calls from Downing Street - a claim strongly disputed by No 10.

The charity boss has since admitted to being in contact with Tories over the claims, adding that it was "irrelevant" in the context of her speaking out.

Asked if the Conservative Party had been in contact with her over the allegations, she replied: "Yes. I have been in touch with them, they have been in contact with us but we are not a political charity, I'm not politically motivated." But questions remain over whether she was contacted by MPs before or after she went public with her comments.






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posted on 22/2/10 at 02:40 PM Reply With Quote
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Christine Pratt


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posted on 22/2/10 at 03:11 PM Reply With Quote






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norfolkluego

posted on 22/2/10 at 08:44 PM Reply With Quote
'Professor Cary Cooper, a celebrated expert on workplace stress'

Cary Cooper CBE is an American psychologist and Professor of Organisational Psychology and Health at Lancaster University Management School.

Prior to working at Lancaster University, Cooper was Head of the Manchester School of Management (UMIST) from the early 80s, In 1995 he became Pro-Vice Chancellor and then Deputy Vice Chancellor of UMIST until 2002. From 1979 to 1980 he was Chairman of the Management Education and Development Division of the Academy of Management and was elected as Founding President of the British Academy of Management.[1] In June 2005 he was appointed head of the Sunningdale Institute, which, managed by the UK National School of Government, brings international academics and industry figures together to advise on issues facing UK public sector organisations.[2] Cary Cooper is also a Director of well-being specialists and business psychologists, Robertson Cooper Limited, a company which he set up in 1999 with Professor Ivan Robertson

Yep, he'll know all about what it's like to have a job

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posted on 22/2/10 at 08:52 PM Reply With Quote
It is all just distraction tactics to push this story down todays news.

BBC News 6:39 GMT, Monday, 22 February 2010

Doctor guilty of falsifying name on prescription
Dr Adam Osborne
Dr Osborne admitted failing to record the prescriptions he gave to friends

A doctor has been found guilty of misleading and dishonest behaviour by a General Medical Council (GMC) panel.

Dr Adam Osborne, brother of shadow chancellor George Osborne , falsified the name of a drug-addicted friend on a prescription he gave to hospital staff.

Full story http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/8528442.stm



[Edited on 22/2/10 by britishtrident]





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posted on 22/2/10 at 08:58 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by craig1410
of government and to my mind Cameron is a far better prospect than 5 more years of Brown!!


Erm, are you sure? Brown is all out of good ideas, Cameron has never had one. The end result is much the same.


I concurr!





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