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big-vee-twin

posted on 11/5/10 at 06:32 PM Reply With Quote
Bye Bye Gordon

Bye Bye Gordon thanks for everything





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Paul TigerB6

posted on 11/5/10 at 06:33 PM Reply With Quote
good riddance!
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philw

posted on 11/5/10 at 06:35 PM Reply With Quote
I wonder how long it will take the Tories to privatise the Royal Mail?
Back to same old same old me thinks.





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001Ben

posted on 11/5/10 at 06:36 PM Reply With Quote
and high interest rates too.

[Edited on 11/5/10 by 001Ben]

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blakep82

posted on 11/5/10 at 06:39 PM Reply With Quote
hmm, interesting though, suppose they were voted back in, would he have still gone? ANOTHER prime minister who wasn't actually voted in. bunch of wasters...





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posted on 11/5/10 at 06:39 PM Reply With Quote
We will end up paying through the teeth, whoever takes power.






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big-vee-twin

posted on 11/5/10 at 06:40 PM Reply With Quote
He should have resigned 6 months ago





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posted on 11/5/10 at 06:41 PM Reply With Quote
He should have resigned 13 years ago.
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Originally posted by big-vee-twin
He should have resigned 6 months ago

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posted on 11/5/10 at 06:41 PM Reply With Quote
Time for a change, fingers crossed!





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Jon Ison

posted on 11/5/10 at 06:42 PM Reply With Quote
Remember my post Octoberish ? Get your money on now.

no way will dave n nick get along for long, there parties are poles apart.

Europe ?
Immigration ?
PR ?
Tax and who to tax ?

I'm not a torie by any stretch of the imagination but I truly think dave should have tried it on his own.
Someone on telly summed it up well, its like asking a manure supporter to support Liverpool or vice versa, wont happen.

Honeymoon period to follow then turmoil.






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Paul TigerB6

posted on 11/5/10 at 06:45 PM Reply With Quote
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We will end up paying through the teeth, whoever takes power.


Through necessity now - given the mess they're left with. Cant blame those coming in for the essential cutbacks.

I just hope they cut back in the right places - get rid of all these stupid statistics that seem to have become the essential way to run everything. For instance the armed forces now have more bureaucrats than soldiers, as i believe do the NHS (have more pen pushers than docs / nurses - for the benefit of Blake below - ya little tinker ).

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posted on 11/5/10 at 06:49 PM Reply With Quote
don't need soldiers in the NHS, more doctors and nurses though...

bear in mind that tory of 20 odd years ago were responsible for the high interest rates, privatising everything to pay loads of debt (presumably, i don't know, was too young at the time) no government want to be in that position, really doubt it was on purpose. a bit silly to assume its going to happen again





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posted on 11/5/10 at 06:55 PM Reply With Quote
I'll never vote Tory too many bitter memories of Maggie!

However, the Condem alliance has got to be much better than the so called Rainbow alliance where the Scottish Nationalists would be holding the country to ransome.

I just hope the Libdems can pull on Camerons chain now and again and keep him in check.





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jeffw

posted on 11/5/10 at 06:55 PM Reply With Quote
Thank God that is over....been waiting a long time to get rid of the Labour party. Tough times ahead but at least I don't have to listen to Blair/Brown/Campbell & Mandy anymore.






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posted on 11/5/10 at 07:04 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
don't need soldiers in the NHS, more doctors and nurses though...

bear in mind that tory of 20 odd years ago were responsible for the high interest rates, privatising everything to pay loads of debt (presumably, i don't know, was too young at the time) no government want to be in that position, really doubt it was on purpose. a bit silly to assume its going to happen again


T'was a necessary evil that had to be done I'm afraid......just like now ... it's going to be tough....but we need to get the country back off its knees......just like back then....

And yes.....I do remember it......
You just wait...in 20 odd years time, the youngsters will be saying....Blimmin Tories, high tax, interest etc etc, completely not understanding that tough calls will have had to be made to get the country kick-started again.....

Much like some of you, who were just a bit too young to remember why the Tories had to make the decisions they did back then.......

All I can say..is that this situation the Tories are now in, to some of us, is very much 'ground-hog' day....
I'd better add there, that I am referring to tough times, not coalition....

Fozzie





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posted on 11/5/10 at 07:11 PM Reply With Quote
Couldn't agree more.......Sadly Dave isn't Maggie. Haigh would do a good impersonation though






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JoelP

posted on 11/5/10 at 07:11 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 001Ben
and high interest rates too.

[Edited on 11/5/10 by 001Ben]


at least labour divested interest rate decisions to the BoE, so the new gov wont have immediate control of matter.






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jeffw

posted on 11/5/10 at 07:16 PM Reply With Quote
High interest rates where not the preserve of the Tories. The average rate since the war has been around 7%. The insane levels of 15% where an attempt to stay in the EMF once the markets tried to ruin Stirling. It is only in very recent years that interest rates have been as low as they are, sadly the Libor rate hasn't followed the BoE rate.






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JoelP

posted on 11/5/10 at 07:17 PM Reply With Quote
does anyone else think it would be a good idea to stop party leaders making MPs vote to the party line? Ie no whips, free vote on everything. Then every MP would have to listen to constituant, and there would be no need for one party to have the majority you need to force acts through. ie you could just form a minority government and hope others agree with your plans!






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Jon Ison

posted on 11/5/10 at 07:21 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
does anyone else think it would be a good idea to stop party leaders making MPs vote to the party line? Ie no whips, free vote on everything. Then every MP would have to listen to constituant, and there would be no need for one party to have the majority you need to force acts through. ie you could just form a minority government and hope others agree with your plans!


Stop talking common sense.

Trouble is the "new government" hasn't been elected ?

I didn't see condem anywhere on the ballot paper I ticked ?

btw I am unfortunately old enough to have been around trying to raise a young family and pay a mortgage during the thatcher years, let them eat grass ?

dave has thrown every principle he ever championed out the window on this one ? The man should have tried to stand on his own two feet.






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Fozzie

posted on 11/5/10 at 07:22 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jeffw
.......Sadly Dave isn't Maggie. Haigh would do a good impersonation though


So very, very true. Hague has just got better (more confident) as time has gone by......

IMHO he was just a tad too young and not wordly wise when he was Tory leader......but he would be ace now!

Joel, I thought the B of E always set the base interest rates.
Was it not New Labour who took the control of the banks away from the B of E? ... Hence the banks running away with themselves unchecked?

Fozzie





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posted on 11/5/10 at 07:28 PM Reply With Quote
I vote Ozzy Osbourne for PM The rest should be sent to the moon.





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posted on 11/5/10 at 07:34 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
don't need soldiers in the NHS, more doctors and nurses though...

bear in mind that tory of 20 odd years ago were responsible for the high interest rates, privatising everything to pay loads of debt (presumably, i don't know, was too young at the time) no government want to be in that position, really doubt it was on purpose. a bit silly to assume its going to happen again


T'was a necessary evil that had to be done I'm afraid......just like now ... it's going to be tough....but we need to get the country back off its knees......just like back then....

And yes.....I do remember it......
You just wait...in 20 odd years time, the youngsters will be saying....Blimmin Tories, high tax, interest etc etc, completely not understanding that tough calls will have had to be made to get the country kick-started again.....

Much like some of you, who were just a bit too young to remember why the Tories had to make the decisions they did back then.......

All I can say..is that this situation the Tories are now in, to some of us, is very much 'ground-hog' day....
I'd better add there, that I am referring to tough times, not coalition....

Fozzie


It was very necessary then, as it is now, but they went too far in the nineties and most people were glad to see the back of them. It's just the same old cycle though, labour spend more than we can afford and the conservatives cut to bring the books back into balance, then people forget the problems, just remember the pain and round we go again.

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JoelP

posted on 11/5/10 at 07:44 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie

Joel, I thought the B of E always set the base interest rates.
Was it not New Labour who took the control of the banks away from the B of E? ... Hence the banks running away with themselves unchecked?

Fozzie


Not 100% sure; but as far as i can see, the BoE has been calling the shots on interest rates since 1997. Before that i believe it was the gov.






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posted on 11/5/10 at 07:44 PM Reply With Quote
thing is, the only way to get the country out of debt is to pay through the teeth, so any pm will look bad now.
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