jacko
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 06:52 PM |
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Common land owners
Hi All
I live next to common land which i thought belonged to the people [ ie common ] but about 3 years ago it was fenced round.
yesterday we received a letter saying if we wanted we could look at the proposed plans for houses
So does this mean the counsel have sold it on the quiet and ignored Common land
Is there a way of finding out if it was sold and who too [ For Free ]
Jacko
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 06:56 PM |
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Think you can look at the land registry online
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jacko
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 06:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by big-vee-twin
Think you can look at the land registry online
Not for free its £37
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BenB
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 07:03 PM |
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Yup. Councils are cheeky f'kers eh? they put up the council tax year on year (until the government stopped them) whilst flogging off grannies
jewelery!!
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thunderace
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 07:03 PM |
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phone them and ask.the council and see what they say about it.
[Edited on 29/6/10 by thunderace]
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jacko
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 07:11 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by thunderace
phone them and ask.the council and see what they say about it.
[Edited on 29/6/10 by thunderace]
I have spoke to a councillor tonight and he is getting back to me in a day or two 
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snapper
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 07:14 PM |
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Common land (a common) is land owned collectively or by one person, but over which other people have certain traditional rights, such as to allow
their livestock to graze upon it, to collect firewood, or to cut turf for fuel.[1] By extension, the term "commons" has come to be applied
to other resources which a community has rights or access to. The older texts use the word "common" to denote any such right, but more
modern usage is to refer to particular rights of common, and to reserve the name "common" for the land over which the rights are
exercised.
Historically most rights of common were appurtenant[2] to particular plots of land, and the commoner would be the person who, for the time being, was
the occupier of a particular plot of land (or in the case of turbary, even a particular heath). Some rights of common were said to be in gross, that
is, they were unconnected with ownership or tenure of land. This was more usual in regions where commons are more extensive, such as in Northern
England or the Fens, but also included many village greens across England and Wales. Most land with appurtenant commons rights is adjacent to the
common or even surrounded by it, but in a few cases it may be some considerable distance
By putting a fence round it and leaving it for some time common rights may well have been lost
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jacko
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 07:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by snapper
Common land (a common) is land owned collectively or by one person, but over which other people have certain traditional rights, such as to allow
their livestock to graze upon it, to collect firewood, or to cut turf for fuel.[1] By extension, the term "commons" has come to be applied
to other resources which a community has rights or access to. The older texts use the word "common" to denote any such right, but more
modern usage is to refer to particular rights of common, and to reserve the name "common" for the land over which the rights are
exercised.
Historically most rights of common were appurtenant[2] to particular plots of land, and the commoner would be the person who, for the time being, was
the occupier of a particular plot of land (or in the case of turbary, even a particular heath). Some rights of common were said to be in gross, that
is, they were unconnected with ownership or tenure of land. This was more usual in regions where commons are more extensive, such as in Northern
England or the Fens, but also included many village greens across England and Wales. Most land with appurtenant commons rights is adjacent to the
common or even surrounded by it, but in a few cases it may be some considerable distance
By putting a fence round it and leaving it for some time common rights may well have been lost
The last bit says it all 
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Brook_lands
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 07:49 PM |
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You might want to look at the Commons Act 2006 - Section 15 and consider submitting an application for a new town or village green.
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 08:09 PM |
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Are you sure it was actually common land by law in the first place??
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jacko
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 08:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
Are you sure it was actually common land by law in the first place??
Well it's always been called Anlaby Common
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sonic
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 09:07 PM |
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Get your local MP in on the job Graham
You may as well get your monies worth out of him
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thunderace
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 09:17 PM |
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YOU WILL NEED TO SAY YOU USE THE LAND ALL THE TIME AND EVRYONE LOCALY WALKS THERE DOGS THERE FLYS KITS ECT ECT.
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trextr7monkey
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 09:47 PM |
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Seems like it will come down to the definition of "Common" -I'mguessing this is Council owned land that the public have
traditionally had access to rather than a common with rights for grazing etc as discussed above. With a previous house we had grazing rights on a
common and there wer annual commoners meetings and all rights were at the land registry. As common land it was not legal to fence it off and when
they discovered some rare plants and wanted to protect them they needed permission from the Seretary of State for Environment as well as permission
from all commoners or their committee.
You should certainly be able to view plans for free but that doesn't clarify the land ownership.
Another useful ally here is Private Eye magazine - they have a thing about dodgey councils misusing land bequeathed to them for everyone to enjoy as
well as floggging off playing fields to big developers for financial gains, not allof which return to the public pourse, they allege 
hth
Mike
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Pezza
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| posted on 29/6/10 at 10:04 PM |
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Get DEFRA to survey it for protected species.
I live in a private road, and the developer wanted to build additional properties in the field behind some 7 yers later.
A survey was carried out and the field is now a designated conservation area due to a population of great crested newts.
It means they can't build on it any time soon (great for us as it preserves the character of the village), on the down side we are now deemed
responsible for the newts( as it's private land) and can be fined anywhere up to £20,000 for each newt killed through human activity which can
be traced back to us.
You couldn't pwn your way out of a wet paper bag, with "PWN ME!!" written on it, from the "pwned take-away" which originally contained one
portion of chicken tikka pwnsala and the obligatory free pwnpadom.
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 1/7/10 at 08:28 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Pezza
Get DEFRA to survey it for protected species.
I live in a private road, and the developer wanted to build additional properties in the field behind some 7 yers later.
A survey was carried out and the field is now a designated conservation area due to a population of great crested newts.
LOL - Great Crested Newts!! For such an endangered species - its amazing how often they turn up in a pond on land earmarked for housing development.
It happened around here - there were "conservationists" moving newts into the area for weeks beforehand!!
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