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Author: Subject: So how many of us are unemployed - seemingly unemployable :(
D Beddows

posted on 1/10/10 at 08:02 PM Reply With Quote
So how many of us are unemployed - seemingly unemployable :(

I'm an Architectural Technician specialising in Shopfitting......all modesty aside I'm very good at what I do and I've designed shops for Tescos, M&S, Primark etc etc but it's coming up to a year now since I've had a proper job there's been a bit of freelance stuff BUT every proper job I go for gets snapped up people who have no decent experience but who'll do the job for £5 an hour and travel 50 miles each way for the privilege.......

I must admit I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to do next - I have a BEng in Automotive engineering but that was 10 years ago and no one would employ me as a 30 year old recent graduate let alone now............

Just glad I didn't vote Lib Dem last time round as I always have before

[Edited on 1/10/10 by D Beddows]






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nick205

posted on 1/10/10 at 08:15 PM Reply With Quote
Difficult times for sure.

Could you use your skills/experience in other areas, office layouts, pubs or other commercial premises maybe?

IIRC spdpug on here works in the pub fit out trade - might be worth picking his brains.






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steve m

posted on 1/10/10 at 08:22 PM Reply With Quote
Appologies, as i do have a job, but in this "climate" is any job safe, and the sure answer is NO

I work in aviation, so its not if, but when my airline will fold

Good luck in your quest for work

regards

Steve

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marcjagman

posted on 1/10/10 at 08:31 PM Reply With Quote
I am an engineer by trade but now look after my missus who has MS. Not too long ago I went for a series of jobs, not one interview from over 100 applications, probably due to my age and not working properly as it were for a few years. Anyone who is struggling to find work has my sympathies, I can't because of my wife, doesn't mean I don't want to.
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Guinness

posted on 1/10/10 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
David

I've had a look at your website and it looks great! I'd put any thoughts of working for someone else out of your head and concentrate on making your own business a success!

I know it's hard, but we've been out on our own for 2 1/2 years now and whilst it's been difficult, it's not impossible. In fact there are clients out there, who need what it is we do.

In my spare time (!?!) I'm doing a degree at university, Building Project Management, which is exactly what I do every day (and for the past 12 years) but failed to get any formal qualifications in.

In addition to about 200 full time students (18 yr olds who've never been on a building site) there are 15 part timers, (10 AT's, 3 Construction Managers and only 2 Building Project Managers)

For what it's worth, I had a conversation with one of the part time AT students on my course who has changed over to Full time Building Project Management and given up his job.

He was in exactly the same position I was back in 1999, working on / running £1m plus projects, earning huge fees for the practice and on next to no money. When I complained, the boss went out and took on 2 graduates for the same money I was on, and told me to manage / train them up. I left a month later and moved into Project Management.

The other AT's are all massively overworked, with their practices having made all the junior grades / positions redundant. So there are lots of Architects / Directors, but no-one left to actually draw anything. Massively top heavy.....

I'd start by contacting all the practices you can, pitching them your skills and ability to come in and take the pressure off, help them achieve deadlines etc?

Best of luck.

Mike






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thunderace

posted on 1/10/10 at 08:39 PM Reply With Quote
i seem around 120 cvs handed in for a part time 4hr contract for a satarday job in a shop at £6.50ph in glasgow most were not students but older people with kids trying to get some extra cash ,very sad ,
also the xmass temp jobs are all taken now for all my mrs shops and there were 1000s more people looking for them than last year.very sad to see ,i just dont understand how this recession happened .
there is still good money to made out there ,my brother is x-army and in in iraq geting £400 a day working 7 days a week with 90 days of a year.not for evryone

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D Beddows

posted on 1/10/10 at 08:56 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Mike (Guinness), yeah I need to look at that again...... enjoying being a full time dad to a 6 month old son means I've perhaps taken my eye off the ball a bit......

But how we've come to this is a mystery...... apparently none of us can have jobs until the banks are full of our money again - but we can't earn money to put in the banks because the banks need all the money they would normally have borrowed to businesses to pay incredible bonuses to the staff who gambled away all our money away in the first place - so the incompetent muppets don't go and work for another bank....Hmmmmm

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daniel mason

posted on 1/10/10 at 08:59 PM Reply With Quote
sorry to put a downer on things but since there is no major industry in our area the recession has not affected our firm in any way whatsoever! weve been on a 45 hour 5 day week every week for the last 6 years ive been there!






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russbost

posted on 1/10/10 at 09:04 PM Reply With Quote
There is no such thing anymore (was there ever?) as "a right to work" - when work dries up , those who are prepared to work for least get employed - they frequently don't last long as they are usually not the best (surprise, surprise!), so it becomes a waiting game to find out where the line of reasonable pay for a reasonable days output finishes up.
The only sure way of being employed is to be self employed, as I have been since shortly after leaving Polytechnic, it's frequently not easy, & frequently poorly paid, but at least you get to make your own decisions regarding what you find fair & reasonable - if you do a good job at a fair price (irrelevant of what actual job you are doing) then people will use you again or will direct friends, relatives, colleagues, clients your way.
I can only say keep your head up & keep trying - best of luck.





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Minicooper

posted on 1/10/10 at 09:51 PM Reply With Quote
My last job was for Stiefel Laboratories in January 2009, I was very unwell and wasn't able to work for a year, but for the last 8 ~ 9 months I have been able to work.
Trouble is I can't find anything, I've had one interview in that time, despite sending my CV in for at least one or two jobs every week I've only spoke to the agency on two occasions in all that time.
I'm sitting here really quite fed up now and mainly thinking about some other way of making a few crumbs until the job market gets better

David

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RazMan

posted on 1/10/10 at 10:58 PM Reply With Quote
^^^^^ I'm in the same situation...

A couple of years ago my spinal condition put me on my back (literally) for 6 months and I was relying on income replacement insurance to pay the bills. I am now fit(ish) for work again but can't find anything in my area.

I am a graphic designer so I can work anywhere but no one seems to want to take me on so I am working for a friend (for peanuts) building a prototype evo-LeMans car - great fun but the project is coming to a close soon and I am going to be tearing my hair out again soon.

Gissajob someone!





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Raz

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jeffw

posted on 2/10/10 at 06:17 AM Reply With Quote
I work for myself either as a consultant and/or on a contract basis and have done so for the last 15 years. During that time I have changed what I do 4 times (all in the IT field but different parts of it, IT Management, Servers, Network Management, IT Security) and have worked long term in Germany, Edinburgh, London, Swindon as well as short term in Italy, Monaco, Spain, US & Hong Kong. Some of the work is well paid, some very well paid and some less so.

I have been in the Senior Management position and able to hire and fire people (staff of 45 & £15M budget) and I've been the simple techie taking orders from the recently graduated Project Manager.

In all of this time I have only been without work for 6 weeks. I also suffer from a lower back injury (I was disabled out of the RN).
I have put my son through primary private education (he has just started at the top Grammer School in Kent). We have a decent 5 bedroom house and 3 cars including the kit car.

The reason I tell you all of this is there is no such thing as a career anymore, don't get hung up on what you have done in the past, be prepared to think differently (can you work for yourself freelance, could you work remotely and so on). If there is no work for your skills in your area either modify the skills to something that is required or change the area.

There is work out there, you just need to find it.






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iank

posted on 2/10/10 at 06:48 AM Reply With Quote
I've just recently got a new job after taking the money and running back up North after 5 years of living away from home 5 days a week. Started a PGCE but at the start of the second in school placement came to the realisation that it wasn't for me and decided to get back into embedded software development.

It took 6 months to find this job (with nothing being advertised in the NE - if I'd given in and gone back to Cambridge I could have had work in a couple of weeks), but am now getting 2-3 recruiters a week calling/emailing about work. Many of my friends in Cambs have also moved companies recently. So business seems to be starting to pick up, at least in electronic/software engineering. I'm on a lot less money than before but the hours are better and the work is more fulfilling (though maybe I'm still in the honeymoon period )

p.s. if there are any electronic engineers out there that fancy the North East (Durham area) and have experience (Switch Mode Power supplies and similar) then let me know as we may have some vacancies opening up in that area soon.





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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 2/10/10 at 09:36 AM Reply With Quote
why dont we pool our skills and talents and start a problem solving company.
I am in a change of job as i rediscover the joy of electrical contracting once more.
I want to work on the new forth crossing project when it comes.
It is a once in a lifetime project that we can do.






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ashg

posted on 2/10/10 at 11:09 AM Reply With Quote
there are a few jobs going at my place.

http://www.elekta.com/jobs.php?gb

great place to work and good money





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Ninehigh

posted on 4/10/10 at 04:49 PM Reply With Quote
I spent 6 months looking for a job after becoming a mechanic. Not only do they want qualifications, and experience, but main dealer experience!

The Audi near me was advertising for a mechanic all that time and they demanded Audi experience. So f**k them

Even security firms were less than useless in this time, the only ones I could get in contact with properly were somehow employing people without holding interviews... Now I have a job they've all come out!

I was delivering pizza for minimum wage for 6 months... marginally better than being unemployed.

I'm up for the problem solving thing, consultant isn't it?






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