coozer
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 06:16 PM |
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Referendum on EU membership
Right then, seems to hot in the media at the moment, and not a minute too soon IMO.
Lets have a referendum here on Europe, the EU in particular and how we would save £45m a day.....
Please post your feelings and thoughts.
1972 V8 Jago
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blakep82
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 06:18 PM |
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would we save 45m a day by not being in the EU?! 
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coozer
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 06:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
would we save 45m a day by not being in the EU?!
Of course, that's how much it cost us daily!
1972 V8 Jago
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steve m
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 06:29 PM |
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I say out,
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 06:45 PM |
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£45m per day, 38m tax payers in Britain, thats £1.18 each. There are 3 tax payers in my household, thats £24.78 of our money going to build motorways
in Turkey every week - nice.
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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designer
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 06:47 PM |
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Trouble is, they have not started in Turkey YET!!
I saw Poland the year they joined, then two years after; what a change, and all paid for by us!!
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scootz
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 06:47 PM |
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I don't know enough about it to make judgement... look forward to reading the various views!
It's Evolution Baby!
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PSpirine
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 06:54 PM |
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I vote in as I've got a Cypriot passport and would otherwise be evicted from here 
You'd think with all those improvements in Poland their lorry drivers would learn to drive better than a blindfolded child.
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handyandy
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 07:01 PM |
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its about time we as a nation stopped "propping up" every other nation, who , i,m sure laugh at us behind our backs..IMO.
I say OUT.
cheers
andy
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steve m
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 07:01 PM |
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"I don't know enough about it to make judgement... look forward to reading the various views! "
What honesty,
Churchill wanted us to stay an island, and fought toothe and nail to remain so and while we are in the EU, we are not
Steve
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Stott
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 07:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by handyandy
its about time we as a nation stopped "propping up" every other nation, who , i,m sure laugh at us behind our backs..IMO.
Here here, especially those damn cypriots................
joke
EDIt: I didn't vote as I don't know much about it either
[Edited on 2/11/10 by Stott]
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tegwin
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 07:06 PM |
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Am I right in thinking Switzerland are "part of the EU" without actually being tied to the financial rapage...
I think we need out... we need to focus back home more and get this country back on its feet!
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 07:09 PM |
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Unfortunately the parasitic tendrils are probably too embedded in the ailing country for it to survive their removal.
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 07:34 PM |
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Umm, just a thought. How much would we lose in trade if we left the EU?? Might have a bit of an effect? Easy to just look at what it costs us, and
ignore what we gain. All rather difficult, but I suspect we would be stuffed. Remember we could easily lose our finance sector to another country, and
that would be a disaster. plus the cost of imports would shoot up, and so on. This needs thinking through......
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lotusmadandy
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 07:40 PM |
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Out please..........
Andy
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mcerd1
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 07:42 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
Am I right in thinking Switzerland are "part of the EU" without actually being tied to the financial rapage...!
thay are part of the 'free trade association' same as Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein
but not part of the 'economic area' (Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein are part of the EEA)
[Edited on 2/11/2010 by mcerd1]
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plantman
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 07:42 PM |
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Oooo I was goig to say that
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mcerd1
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 07:45 PM |
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^^ yeah, but thats all I know without looking it up 
[edit]
if you want to know more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Economic_Area
[Edited on 2/11/2010 by mcerd1]
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slingshot2000
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 07:46 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by handyandy
its about time we as a nation stopped "propping up" every other nation, who , i,m sure laugh at us behind our backs..IMO.
I say OUT.
cheers
andy
My thoughts exactly, BUT, lets not restrict it to the EU. I forget how much a year we give in aid to India, but how come they have just oredered 250
fighter jets from Russia. I am sure some of our defence contractors would have loved an order like that, especially after our Goverment has cancelled
so many of our own. Remember companies like BAE and Rolls Royce make more money from the ongoing mantainance and parts contracts, than they do on the
original sale.
Def out ! The sooner the better!
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perksy
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 08:04 PM |
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OUT
and Sooner rather than later aswell
BUT just like the last 'government' i doubt We'll get the chance to vote on it...
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handyandy
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 08:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by slingshot2000
quote:
Originally posted by handyandy
its about time we as a nation stopped "propping up" every other nation, who , i,m sure laugh at us behind our backs..IMO.
I say OUT.
cheers
andy
My thoughts exactly, BUT, lets not restrict it to the EU. I forget how much a year we give in aid to India, but how come they have just oredered 250
fighter jets from Russia. I am sure some of our defence contractors would have loved an order like that, especially after our Goverment has cancelled
so many of our own. Remember companies like BAE and Rolls Royce make more money from the ongoing mantainance and parts contracts, than they do on the
original sale.
Def out ! The sooner the better!
I agree totally with your views, they basically merge with my own point of view, "laugh behind our backs".
On a personal note....I served in the Falklands war, ( & proud i did ), I wasn,t military, but was in the merchant navy, makes me wonder if the
same situation arose again , what would we do? as we have slowly lost the Merchant Navy that this country once relied upon so much, for centuries.
I,ll climb down off my soap box
cheers
andy
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hillbillyracer
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 08:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cliftyhanger
Umm, just a thought. How much would we lose in trade if we left the EU?? Might have a bit of an effect? Easy to just look at what it costs us, and
ignore what we gain. All rather difficult, but I suspect we would be stuffed. Remember we could easily lose our finance sector to another country, and
that would be a disaster. plus the cost of imports would shoot up, and so on. This needs thinking through......
I'm inclined to agree, we're too close to Europe & too far from everywhere else (in physical geography rather than political) for us
to be trying to make our own road. If we were to opt out would we or the rest of Europe suffer most?
On the other hand they do get an awful lot of our money! I suspect a lot of it ends up wasted or in the wrong pockets.
Ultimately I'm with Scootz, I dont know enough to make a proper judgement. Do any of us?
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 08:14 PM |
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Out, Out, Out!
Guess which crowd I stand in?
I never voted to be in the damn thing in the first place!
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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belgian2b
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 08:14 PM |
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Hello,
i have been checking some numbers.
From 1986 to 2000, the netto cost of EU by citizen is -34 € in UK ( cost) when it is 575 € benefit in Irland per citizen.
When you know that the Queen and Charles do receive great cheques from common agricultural policy ( so the money you give to EU that is payed back), i
don't think you have such a bad position.
Gerardo
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femster87
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| posted on 2/11/10 at 08:21 PM |
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Lol, i'll stay out of this debate, not before i say getting out would def spell disaster, england owns nothing at the moment, pissing people off
would def see the decline of the remaining service industries.
[Edited on 2/11/10 by femster87]
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