jacko
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 06:51 PM |
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Wet garage roof [ in side ]
Hi over the snowy times my asbestos type roof is letting water though so i was going to put wood batons across then a second steel box type roof on
top [ with rock wool in between ].
But some one has suggested fibre glassing over the asbestos instead what do you ppl think ?
has anyone done this ?
Jacko
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paulf
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 06:59 PM |
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I doubt that the fibre glass would adhere properly and so would still leak, my dad tried to seal his asbestos garage roof many times over a period of
about 30 years that i know of and eventually had the lot removed and replaced it with steel type roof and has had no further problems.He also
insulated the inside with polystyrene sheet to stop condensation.You can dispose of the asbestos free of charge at a local authorized council tip as
long as well wrapped.
Paul
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Originally posted by jacko
Hi over the snowy times my asbestos type roof is letting water though so i was going to put wood batons across then a second steel box type roof on
top [ with rock wool in between ].
But some one has suggested fibre glassing over the asbestos instead what do you ppl think ?
has anyone done this ?
Jacko
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 07:00 PM |
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Can't you use the paint on stuff like ISOFlex, think it even goes on in the wet .
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 07:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by paulf
I doubt that the fibre glass would adhere properly and so would still leak, my dad tried to seal his asbestos garage roof many times over a period of
about 30 years that i know of and eventually had the lot removed and replaced it with steel type roof and has had no further problems.He also
insulated the inside with polystyrene sheet to stop condensation.You can dispose of the asbestos free of charge at a local authorized council tip as
long as well wrapped.
Paul
Trouble is, you need to be registered to remove it in the first place.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 07:06 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
quote:
Originally posted by paulf
I doubt that the fibre glass would adhere properly and so would still leak, my dad tried to seal his asbestos garage roof many times over a period of
about 30 years that i know of and eventually had the lot removed and replaced it with steel type roof and has had no further problems.He also
insulated the inside with polystyrene sheet to stop condensation.You can dispose of the asbestos free of charge at a local authorized council tip as
long as well wrapped.
Paul
Trouble is, you need to be registered to remove it in the first place.
Not sure you do this has changed, if you were commercial yes, but DIY I think it's allowed..
Dan
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JoelP
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 07:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
quote:
Originally posted by paulf
I doubt that the fibre glass would adhere properly and so would still leak, my dad tried to seal his asbestos garage roof many times over a period of
about 30 years that i know of and eventually had the lot removed and replaced it with steel type roof and has had no further problems.He also
insulated the inside with polystyrene sheet to stop condensation.You can dispose of the asbestos free of charge at a local authorized council tip as
long as well wrapped.
Paul
Trouble is, you need to be registered to remove it in the first place.
No you dont.
I would remove and replace, following appropriate proceedures. Fiddling with it just makes it harder in the long run - imagine trying to safely remove
it once its all fibreglassed into a single slab!
£100 would get you a plastic roof that lets light in.
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jacko
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 07:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by MakeEverything
quote:
Originally posted by paulf
I doubt that the fibre glass would adhere properly and so would still leak, my dad tried to seal his asbestos garage roof many times over a period of
about 30 years that i know of and eventually had the lot removed and replaced it with steel type roof and has had no further problems.He also
insulated the inside with polystyrene sheet to stop condensation.You can dispose of the asbestos free of charge at a local authorized council tip as
long as well wrapped.
Paul
Trouble is, you need to be registered to remove it in the first place.
Since when ?
the tip near us has a skip just for asbestos having said that when i bought the garage that said it was not asbestos 
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bigfoot4616
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 07:13 PM |
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if your going to put on a metal roof get the more expensive stuff which has insulation sandwhiched between 2 bits of metal, top side profiled, botterm
side flat.
a mate used it and has never had any condensation and my dad used the stuff without and had to put up some polystyrene as the condensation was really
bad.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 07:23 PM |
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My local tip is a nightmare for asbestos; I took a bit of asbestos sheet I found (maybe 2' x 18" whilst clearing out my basement and they
made me fill in a form with name, address, car registration and it had to be double bagged. They would have a fit if I took a whole roofs worth I
reckon!
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JoelP
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 08:10 PM |
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I'd always call in advance, as its not a trip you want to do twice. You'd be annoyed if you had a boot full of this stuff and had to take
it all home with you.
Well wrapped is always going to be necessary.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 09:28 PM |
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And it depends on exactly what the material is.
Not that the drone at the tip will exactly be able to tell his amosite from his chrysotile from his crocidolite.
Anyway, direct from the HSE website.
•do not attempt to remove asbestos lagging, spray coatings or insulation board by yourself. These materials can only be safely removed by a licensed
contractor
Can anyone, a lay person, tell me exactly what AIB, or Asbestos insulation board looks like ?
Can you just tell by looking at it ?
I know little of asbestos, but you have to be aware of the above.
Incidentally, if you think you can tell AIB just by looking at it, you're quite probably wrong.
You can quite safely assume that something is asbestos, but you can never ever assume that it isn't.
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 09:46 PM |
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I would guess your roof material is the same as the stuff I had on mine before I changed it. Mine was concrete/asbestos sheeting. It is not as dodgy
as the 'blue' asbestos but still needs to be treated with care. I rang the local re-cycling yard and they told me that I could arrange to
drop it off myself. I had to download a form and then double-bag the sheets and deliver them myself and put them in the asbestos skip. They will not
touch it themselves so you have to do it all.
As long as you give it a good soaking before you take it off (which it sounds like it already has lol!) then it will be fine.
I replaced it with some steel roofing sheets I got cheap. Made a BIG difference.
HTH
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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MkIndy7
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 10:20 PM |
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The main advantage i've found of leaving the existing roof (whatever asbestos type material it is).. is that the garage remains water tight and
secure while your carrying out the work, and it can be done over a few nights or weekends if required.
Also it sounds like everybody has different experiences of what local tip's etc will take, ours was having none of it no matter how it was
delivered to them, or they weren't prepared to gives us the info etc to allow us to dispose of it properly.
I've known people try and patch up the corrugated sheets with allsorts of things and it never seems very sucessful, but every one i've
done putting lagging above the asbestos, and then a sheet steel roof ontop has been very pleased with the results (watertight and warmer) and for how
little effort is it wished they'd have done it years ago!
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 10:26 PM |
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Was going to do that to mine but I had a family of rats living in there so I thought better of it. You would not believe how much rat poo and
bedding (made from pretty much anything they found in the garage) there was up there!!
It's right about the tips though, they all vary and I guess I'm just lucky with mine.
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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