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bertie_bas205

posted on 15/3/11 at 08:34 AM Reply With Quote
Is this the right place to say Hello???

Just thought I'd say hello.....

I'm usually buzzing about in a Peugeot 205 (one of many) or making my way through the countryside in a Land Rover....

I want to build a car myself and found this site, so be patient with all my questions....

So, hello to all and hope to talk to some of yous soon....





Bertie.

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David Jenkins

posted on 15/3/11 at 08:39 AM Reply With Quote
Welcome to the mad house!

We're actually a friendly lot - don't be afraid to ask questions, as many others will have encountered the same problems (or have the same question!).

What are thinking of building?

cheers,
David






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bertie_bas205

posted on 15/3/11 at 08:43 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks for the hello...

Right, i know absolutly nothing about kit cars.... Is there model names to these things??

I would like to power it by a Peug engine as i know where i am with them, I have managed to squeeze out over 300 ponies from them....

There are kits or chassis out there for sale but as i said i dont have a clue to which one...





Bertie.






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David Jenkins

posted on 15/3/11 at 08:48 AM Reply With Quote
The best bet is to get along to a big kit car show - there are quite a few, but only 2 or 3 are really worth visiting, IMHO. Stoneleigh is the best (it's a few miles south of Coventry) - not sure of the date this year, but someone will pipe up soon enough.

You will be able to stroll around the trade stands, sit in many of the cars, get a view on the friendliness & approachability of the kit manufacturers. Then you can walk outside and see examples made by the owners and get their views.

The only down-side is that you'll get overwhelmed by the choice...

UPDATE: just seen where you're based - maybe a Midlands show isn't ideal!


[Edited on 15/3/11 by David Jenkins]






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scudderfish

posted on 15/3/11 at 08:54 AM Reply With Quote
Have a look at the locostbuilders map http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid=103389385780517934652.00046cd68141a23c2af63 to see if there is anyone near you that could take you for a spin.

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Dave






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bertie_bas205

posted on 15/3/11 at 09:01 AM Reply With Quote
Traveling isn't a problem, i treck all over the country for 4x4 Callenges and racing my 205's.......

The question is where to start... Getting the kit/chassis seems to be "off the shelf" kinda thing, the only niggle is most of them seem to be made of box section... Is there a tubed chassis available???

I'm a mechy to trade so thats not an issue, I can weld and fabricate and am fortunate to have a fully equiped garage and the back up of some friends who own fabshops.....

Any advice on the chassis to buy would be good.....




Bertie.






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scudderfish

posted on 15/3/11 at 09:22 AM Reply With Quote
Get a copy of this, read it, and then evaluate what you really want to do.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Build-Your-Own-Sports-Car/dp/1844253910/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1300180886&sr=8-14






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Liam

posted on 15/3/11 at 09:24 AM Reply With Quote
Hello and welcome!

As said try to get to a show and see them in the metal (and fiberglass/wood/cheese ). Have you any idea at all what you want to build? I.e. a traditional Seven shaped thing (Caterham/Westfield/Locost), something with a full body, something mid-engined?? Definately an off the shelf kit, or are you considering a scratch build?

If you're talking Seven, then much as many people would love to consider a Pug engine, there is no RWD gearbox available (that we know of) which hampers that idea. Can get round it with adaptor plate/modified bellhousing, but most people dont go that way. On the other hand, a FWD transverse Pug setup could be installed, the whole lot, in the back of a mid-engined kit.

As for chassis, the vast majority are square section tube, the main reason being it's easy to work with and easy to attach brackets and body panels to. Ideal for a kit car chassis. Most chassis do use round tube where there are no panels/brackets to mount. Full round tube chassis are available as an expensive option from some manufacturers (eg Dax), but there's no major benefit to it other than being able to shave of a few kg for the same strength thanks to slightly superior properties of round tube.

Some food for thought. Hope it helps and good luck!

Liam

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bertie_bas205

posted on 15/3/11 at 09:33 AM Reply With Quote
I have bought the Haynes book.... As a place to start....

I'll look into getting a good look at a car, theres a couple fleeing about were i live, the problem being if ye try to flag them down they think yer up for a bit of "sport"....

There are a couple of rear wheel drive gearbox options, LDV and some of the old FSO's..... The engine would be the XU 2ltr turbo'd lump... They work very well in a 205.....

I do have a couple of V8's here, maybe a bit too much for a Locost but they are simple and easy to maintain...

I have several engine options, 2 of my friends own breakers yards....


Thanks Lads,




Bertie.






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David Jenkins

posted on 15/3/11 at 09:36 AM Reply With Quote
There's a few keen forum members in your neck of the woods so maybe they'll stick their heads above the parapet and give you a call...






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bertie_bas205

posted on 15/3/11 at 09:45 AM Reply With Quote
Is this type of chassis a good place to start??


[img]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=140449125791[/img]

Its described as a "7" chassis, i take it is a take off of the Lotus 7????

Yeah, hopefully someone pops up......




Bertie.






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mikeb

posted on 15/3/11 at 10:06 AM Reply With Quote
Over on the Haynes roadster forum there a very nicely built chassis for sale. All other bits can be bought or made from various suppliers depending on your skill.
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omega 24 v6

posted on 15/3/11 at 12:23 PM Reply With Quote
There are a few of us in the shire. Myself with scratch built +442. Slater ( now in S/africa IIRC) Mads4x4 is south of ABD Mix is up Turriff way. There's ewan and craig8200 and a few others not on here.
Best look at all options of chassis before you decide and if a tubular takes your fancy then an MNR would fit the bill.





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TimC

posted on 15/3/11 at 12:33 PM Reply With Quote
I've seen a couple of Pug powered cars - a Locost many years ago that someone was using for sprinting and a Sylva Clubman that was for sale 18months ago - as stated, they must've used some sort of adaptor plate.

Welcome and good luck.






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blakep82

posted on 15/3/11 at 12:37 PM Reply With Quote
Is this the right place to say Hello???

No, jog on

joking


quote:
Originally posted by bertie_bas205
Is this type of chassis a good place to start??


[img]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?VISuperSize&item=140449125791[/img]

Its described as a "7" chassis, i take it is a take off of the Lotus 7????

Yeah, hopefully someone pops up......




Bertie.


correct, most of them are lotus 7 copies lol that one might be a bit far to pick up though. if i remember right, luego cars is up near you somewhere? i know you said you travel the country often, but i wouldn't fancy picking up from essex, with or without a 205 or landy in tow.

check out luego
http://www.luegosportscars.com/2.html

they say they're focusing more on track than road now, but should still be able to sort you out with a chassis





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van cleef

posted on 15/3/11 at 04:21 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Albert I'm not stalking you.

I'm relativley new here i sold my 309 gti and bought a Toniq R and your more than welcome to come down for a look or i can take you out in it if you want.

Luego are down in Kintore just in front of easyblast and they're Viento take's most engine's.

Lee

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coozer

posted on 15/3/11 at 04:44 PM Reply With Quote
Welcome lad, you've come to right place.

You can build anything you like and when you scratch your head ask away and you'll be in the know straight away.

My next project is a RWD 106/Saxo and without the knowledge on here I wouldn't have had a clue!

Steve





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stevegough

posted on 15/3/11 at 04:57 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by van cleef
Hi Albert I'm not stalking you.

I'm relativley new here i sold my 309 gti and bought a Toniq R and your more than welcome to come down for a look or i can take you out in it if you want.

Luego are down in Kintore just in front of easyblast and they're Viento take's most engine's.

Lee


Welcome, I don't know of anyone who's used a PUG in a kit, but I may be mistooked.

Just to add that Luego may be worth a visit, especially as it is in your back yard - but there is something strange (reorganisationally?) going on at the company, and has been for he last couple of months, so don't be surprised if there's no - one at home...





Luego Locost C20XE.
Build start: October 6th 2008.
IVA passed Jan 28th 2011.
First drive Feb 10th 2011.
First show: Stoneleigh 1st/2nd May 2011.
'Used up' first engine may 3rd 2011!
Back on the road with 2nd engine may 24th
First PASA mad drive 26/7/11
Sold to Mike in Methyr Tydvil 19/03/14

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bertie_bas205

posted on 15/3/11 at 06:45 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by van cleef
Hi Albert I'm not stalking you.

I'm relativley new here i sold my 309 gti and bought a Toniq R and your more than welcome to come down for a look or i can take you out in it if you want.

Luego are down in Kintore just in front of easyblast and they're Viento take's most engine's.

Lee


Hey Lee,

I didnt know that company was there to be honest.....

I would like to have a good look at yer motor...


Thanks for all the hello's and help so far....




Bertie..

P.s Lee, do ye still have the engine.... work etc has been mad so havent had time to get a hold of ye...






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van cleef

posted on 16/3/11 at 06:38 AM Reply With Quote
Yep i still have it and it's just cluttering the garage and your more than welcome to come and have a look at my Toniq when ever you want.
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bertie_bas205

posted on 16/3/11 at 07:53 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by van cleef
Yep i still have it and it's just cluttering the garage and your more than welcome to come and have a look at my Toniq when ever you want.


I'll come over and look at yer kit......

I'll take my trailer with me and pick up that engine... ha ha!

What engine are you using in yer Car??




Bertie.






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hughpinder

posted on 16/3/11 at 08:25 AM Reply With Quote
Hello and welcome

Hope you find this forum as useful as I have

Regards
Hugh

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bertie_bas205

posted on 16/3/11 at 08:56 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hughpinder
Hello and welcome

Hope you find this forum as useful as I have

Regards
Hugh


I just hope people dont mind a heap of questions, what i know about kit cars you could write on the back of a postage stamp.....




Bertie.






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