Poll: fire works [View Results]
no they should be available to the general public
yes they should organise local events
no they should be sold to anyone wanting to buy them
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macspeedy

posted on 5/11/04 at 07:57 PM Reply With Quote
fire works

should fire works be banned and showed by the local councils

the reason why i ask is as i type i have a shivering dog bewildered by what is happening and scared stupid and doped up at my feet and have seen what fire works can do in the wrong hands.

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philgregson

posted on 5/11/04 at 08:11 PM Reply With Quote
I'm with you on this one.

I'm generally against banning things but fireworks are dangerous and annoying and get out of hand - I can't see another option.

Last year I got one thrown at my car - didn't do any harm but the bang caused more than a minor distraction as I drove over it.

It is normally like a war zone around buxton in the weeks leading upto nov 5th, although this year it hasn't beena s bad.

My idiot neighbour has just been demonstrating how much of a prat he is by letting off huge fireworks in his 1.5 by 2.5m garden - I was coughing with the smoke in my front room and I haven't seen the cat scince.

Sorry to be a party pooper but there are far to many idiots out there for them to be readily available.

Phil

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Mark Allanson

posted on 5/11/04 at 08:28 PM Reply With Quote
As someone born in York (the birthplace of Guy Faulks), I have to say that Guy was the only person to enter parliament with good intentions. As for fireworks, it is impossible to regulate the use whilst they are on open sale, I guess that 80% are misused by the amount going off locally - and yes my dogs are terrified by them, they have been going off for about the last 2 weeks, one day of terror for them is too much, but probably acceptable to the general public, but a fortnight is a little over the top





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macspeedy

posted on 5/11/04 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
here is an idea why doesn't the government add a tax to them!! ha
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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 5/11/04 at 09:46 PM Reply With Quote
They got banned in SA for a few years and it was peace but the local indian comunity campained for their festivals. So the govt restricted imports and made it professional show only.

Was great no idiots shooting rockets at each other.......

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robinbastd

posted on 5/11/04 at 09:54 PM Reply With Quote
Ban the sale of the bloody things to the public. Organised displays are the only place for them. Every year people are maimed by them.
Apart from that my 2 daughters(2 and4) have been scared witless by the noise around here tonight and the same thing will happen tomorrow,etc.
Pity it isn't p#ssing down with rain.
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Hellfire

posted on 5/11/04 at 10:07 PM Reply With Quote
And while they're at it outlaw mischievous night too.... I had half a wall brick thrown at my business car... all the family in it! 1 metre further down the car it would have gone through the passenger side window and possibly killed the missus. Luckily all I have is a big repair bill...

I called the police and the response was "shit, that's the third time in an hour" I got out the car to investigate but about 30 14~18yr olds just stood in defiance. It's time's like this I just hate poor parenting!






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nick205

posted on 5/11/04 at 10:21 PM Reply With Quote
It's times like that when you need a RMCC! (Roof Mounted Chav Cannon).







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JoelP

posted on 5/11/04 at 11:02 PM Reply With Quote
ditto, ban them. Its a bloody explosive... to much potential for mischief.






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Peteff

posted on 5/11/04 at 11:05 PM Reply With Quote
I have a 17 year old collie who is totally oblivious to fireworks, always has been and up to two years ago had a fox terrier who couldn't wait to get out and bark at them although she was terrified of thunder (?). My brother in law has to have his dog Herbie (alsatian x boxer), who is enormous but very friendly, sedated till they go away. I don't think that the type of fireworks that are available nowadays should be sold to the people that think they need them.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/978499.stm





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stephen_gusterson

posted on 5/11/04 at 11:54 PM Reply With Quote
what a miserable bunch of gits!

i voted that they should be on sale to everyone.

most fireworks are wimpy things that arer hardly worth the money. But used correctly, like anything, they are fun.

I let them off at home as well as seeing shows.

If you seek to push the safety angle then the same nanny state wont let you drive your 101 db kit car.

just 4 quids worth of sweets left 15 kids happy leaving my house on haloween.

lighten up people

atb
steve

[Edited on 5/11/04 by stephen_gusterson]






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gazza285

posted on 6/11/04 at 12:02 AM Reply With Quote
I agree that they are a pain in the arse (now), and one of my kids (22 months) was a bit upset, but how many people on here (blokes one and all, but you can correct me if I'm wrong) as a teenager/youth didn't like playing with fire/swinging on ropes over huge drops/wishing we had a firework to throw about/wanted to own a socially irresponsible sports car and generally like doing things that annoyed the elder generation?

I would like to know what you have done to your dog to make it frightened of loud bangs? We used to take the wife's dog with us to firework displays and none of the cats that I've had have ever been bothered by fireworks.

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gazza285

posted on 6/11/04 at 12:04 AM Reply With Quote
Steve,

Them penny chews go a long way.

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theconrodkid

posted on 6/11/04 at 07:33 AM Reply With Quote
to those with dogs,i gave mine some "serene-um",they are herbal and it certanly made a difference last night,it was like beirut round here





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jollygreengiant

posted on 6/11/04 at 09:10 AM Reply With Quote
I tend to work anti-social hours, weekdays starting at 3:00 am finish around mid day, except for fridays when ( with a few hours kip at lunch time) I work through till about 2:00am and saturday's when I work 6:00pm till about 3:00 or 4:00 am. Around rushden the fireworks that are generally being set off (by the general public) are very little different from those that are being set off by the public displays (height/effect size/noise yield) and if you just stand outside between about 7 and 9 pm and listen the only way off easily describing the sound that you hear is that it must be very similar to that which the combat veterans of the first & second world wars must have heard in the way of artilliary barage shortly before a major offencive began. For those that are stilll alive from those conflicts , to hear that ammount of noise must be a bit unsettling, let alone how it must be for pets. But the ones that really P*SS me of are the nice individuals that seem to think that it is perfectly acceptable to carry on setting the damn things off at 4:00am as per last Saturday/Sunday(30th/31st October)





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I love speed :-P

posted on 6/11/04 at 10:02 AM Reply With Quote
they should stay free to the public but as like most things you get a few idots who ruin it 4 everyone

p.s. if u look hard enough on the world wide wait, i am sure u can find instructions 2 make your own

[Edited on 6/11/2004 by I love speed :-P]





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Peteff

posted on 6/11/04 at 11:10 AM Reply With Quote
It's now an offence to set fireworks off between 11.00pm and 07.00am except on bonfire night when you can set them off till midnight.
http://www.newham.gov.uk/content/News/new-fireworks-law-will-help-to-improve-safety-rp191004.jsp
http://www.dti.gov.uk/fireworks/fire_you/new_leg.htm
This is the new regulations concerning them and the second site gives the penaltiies available.

[Edited on 6/11/04 by Peteff]





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I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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theconrodkid

posted on 6/11/04 at 02:07 PM Reply With Quote
it is also an offence to mug,rob,steal cars,burgle and 1million other things,try ringing plod tho,allways too busy





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Jasper

posted on 6/11/04 at 04:31 PM Reply With Quote
My brother-in-law is a community plod and he recon's they are really on it this year around here - all leave cancelled and all out on patrol. Must say last nights there were loads around us, but it all went very quiet just b4 11pm and stayed that way - seemed to work.

I still think they should ban the lot - and by the way - did anybody else think the options on the poll made no sense????





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Peteff

posted on 6/11/04 at 04:58 PM Reply With Quote
I didn't understand the options

so I just posted without voting





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I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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Mk-Ninja

posted on 6/11/04 at 05:53 PM Reply With Quote
I didnt understand the poll, but think they should be banned, youve only got to see how many people get seriously hurt each year, apart from all the greef it causes as already posted.





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JoelP

posted on 6/11/04 at 06:19 PM Reply With Quote
time to confess!

did anyone one this forum let off a loud one ( a firework that is, not a fart...) after midnight last night? Cos thats the main thing that pisses me off. I never heard any in bed last night though, so maybe they are good round here (first year at new address).

and yeah, the poll is mad. 1 and 3 are the same, number 2 it doesnt say who 'they' are! And theres no option for an outright ban.

[Edited on 6/11/04 by JoelP]






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MikeRJ

posted on 6/11/04 at 11:29 PM Reply With Quote
Options 1 & 3 are the same?

Being a miserable git I'd vote against the bloody things. Little feckers around here have been firing rocket into parked cars, my old man has spent ages trying to tcut the burn marks out of his paintwork.

Wouldn't be so bad if it was just Nov 5th, but seems to start at the end of October and goes on sporadicaly for weeks with the fireworks the chavs have stashed away.

I reckon a miniscule percentage of the population actualy understand the significance of the celebration anyway. For most people it just a chance for their pyromaniac side to take over for a night.

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bob

posted on 6/11/04 at 11:35 PM Reply With Quote
Ban them totally

bonfire night is a pointless celebration anyway






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JoelP

posted on 7/11/04 at 12:05 AM Reply With Quote
i cant understand why they are still legal if so many people agree that they should be banned. i might even write a letter about it. On second thoughts, i cant be arsed...






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