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ReMan

posted on 18/2/05 at 11:19 PM Reply With Quote
Buying Private Plates

Noobie question on this topic!!! In preperation for a bitrthday present for she who is being particularly "understanding" with the build!
I am considering buying a "private plate" for my wife, for her car (which she loves too much)
I have searched one or two of the dealers websites and also what appears to be the DVLA one.
I can find the plate i`m interested in on them all.

  • Does this mean its not been issued yet?
  • Is it likely most cost effective place to purchase it the DVLA direct?
  • Is the DVLA the easiest to purchase from?
  • Is there any chance of price negotiation from either the DVLA or a dealer?

Any experience/input would be most appreciated. I cant afford the time to do the full 6 months research on this one

[Edited on 19/2/05 by ReMan]





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ray.h.

posted on 19/2/05 at 12:43 AM Reply With Quote
Apply directly to DVLA and if the number is not held on retension by someone they will be happy to sell it to you.I dont think they are open to haggling.Some realy interesting numbers will be held back and sold at auction by them to get the best return.
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Jon Ison

posted on 19/2/05 at 08:21 AM Reply With Quote
The plate of interest to me is

JON 150N i searched for it then went to DVLA as suggested above, they came back to me and told me it had never been issued, they now mail me once a month with auction details, i offerd to buy it at there valuation but they said i must by it at auction if and when they put it up for sale, has yet they hav,nt, 3 years now ?






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colibriman

posted on 19/2/05 at 08:45 AM Reply With Quote
Is there any chance of price negotiation from either the DVLA or a dealer?


Colin,

My mate has just bought his Mrs a plate for valentines day, he managed to get a decent discount from one agency - he managed to get one advertised at 1250 down to 1K - so its worth trying

HTH
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phelpsa

posted on 19/2/05 at 08:59 AM Reply With Quote
My dad got a discout because he bought to matching. He got R200OJP and T200OJP for £750 when they were advertised at £500 each.

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Jon Ison

posted on 19/2/05 at 09:11 AM Reply With Quote
if you do see one advertised at an agency go too the DVLA for a price, a lot of the plates advertised by agencys are with the DVLA anyway, scour the adds you will see the same number advertised several times by different people, they know its for sale/available, advertise it, you show interest, they buy it, add there mark up then sell it onto you. Not true of numbers on retention ect but check out the adds, search the number on several sites, you will be amazed how many are working like this, easy money, no stock to carry.






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Hellfire

posted on 19/2/05 at 09:35 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ray.h.
Apply directly to DVLA and if the number is not held on retension by someone they will be happy to sell it to you.I dont think they are open to haggling.Some realy interesting numbers will be held back and sold at auction by them to get the best return.


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RoadkillUK

posted on 19/2/05 at 10:12 AM Reply With Quote
When I bought mine (see sad avatar) I saw it on many sites, but the best place to go is the DVLA as the will have the lowest prices and the price also included the transfer, all you will have to pay for is 2 new plates making up.

The dealers know what reg's are available from the DVLA and then add their cut then you have to pay the £80 transfer fee to the DVLA too. Once you pay one of the 'dealers' they will buy it from the DVLA and then sell it to you.

And now to summorise.

If it's on the DVLA website then it's not been issued yet.
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I don't know about negotiations but I really doubt you will get a better price that from the DVLA.

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donut

posted on 19/2/05 at 10:44 AM Reply With Quote
Mr Ison is absolutely right. The DVLA hold nearly all the plates and other companies just sell on their behalf and put a profit ontop for themselves.

Go direct to DVLA, no hidden charges and they are probably the cheapest.





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andkilde

posted on 19/2/05 at 02:09 PM Reply With Quote
No help but a few comments/questions.

Here in Canada the system is quite open and straightforward -- new plates (as issued) are $10, personalized plates are $100 and you can add the logo of your favorite charity, organization or sports team at varying fixed prices. There is no formalized system for transferring existing plates between owners, but I imagine if you convince someone to turn in a cherished number and subsequently are first to apply for it it may work out.

The bad part is our plates are ugly and of a fixed size, shape and colour.

The question part...

You guys pay 500 to 1250 pounds for registration numbers? Are you completely mad? Or just a little crazy?


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Jon Ison

posted on 19/2/05 at 02:18 PM Reply With Quote
£1250 is the bottom end, you can pay ??? well the skys the limit......






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phelpsa

posted on 19/2/05 at 02:19 PM Reply With Quote
If I remember correctly, K1 NGS went for nearly £1 million!!!!






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andkilde

posted on 19/2/05 at 02:20 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
£1250 is the bottom end, you can pay ??? well the skys the limit......


That's it then -- cheaper for you to move to Canada

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phelpsa

posted on 19/2/05 at 02:23 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andkilde
quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
£1250 is the bottom end, you can pay ??? well the skys the limit......


That's it then -- cheaper for you to move to Canada


I suppose you could just make do with an ordinary plate






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andkilde

posted on 19/2/05 at 02:32 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
If I remember correctly, K1 NGS went for nearly £1 million!!!!


Hmmn, poor fellow, so he had a BMW motorcycle and belonged to the National Geographic Society then, eh?


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jack trolley

posted on 19/2/05 at 04:08 PM Reply With Quote
from Govt. Auction News:
quote:

On 10th December 1993 a mystery buyer paid a staggering £235,000 for the personalised registration K1 NGS.


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Peteff

posted on 19/2/05 at 04:36 PM Reply With Quote
My van has a wierd plate, Northern Island plate with 3 letters and 4 numbers. It came with the van though. I think I agree with andkilde on this one. I know a couple of people who bought cherished numbers then got nicked for not displaying them properly spaced etc. and have to pay again to put them on a replacement vehicle when they swap cars.





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phelpsa

posted on 19/2/05 at 04:54 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jack trolley
from Govt. Auction News:
quote:

On 10th December 1993 a mystery buyer paid a staggering £235,000 for the personalised registration K1 NGS.




Thats the one, I was thinking £835,000.

Adam






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ReMan

posted on 20/2/05 at 11:37 AM Reply With Quote
Thanks chaps, I think i`ll persue buying from the DVLA and see what happens. Being naturally cautious I think i`ll do an in principle conversation with them before I telll them which plate it is, just in case the price gets "adjusted" in line with interest
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JoelP

posted on 20/2/05 at 12:00 PM Reply With Quote
when it come to mis-spacing of private plates, its best to leave the rear one standard, and the front one hacked up if you so choose - much less chance of getting pulled, and if you do there is the chance the cop will appreciate the fact that the rear one is standard and go easy on you.

i must say jon, you are rather luck to have a name that fits straight onto a plate! ive never seen 'joel' on a plate lookig good... maybe J8ELS of somesuch! or maybe more obvious, J8ELP (reads too much like chelping (womens wittering))






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Snuggs

posted on 20/2/05 at 12:34 PM Reply With Quote
I wanted to buy a plate from DVLA. (CBV 835 L)
As it had never been issued they would not sell it direct and insisted that it went in an auction. Cos my car was not ready when the auction came up and I was not sure if I would get an age related plate I didn't bother buying.
I was told by DVLA that if the plate did not sell at auction then it would NEVER be available again.

So they lost a sale and I have lost the chance to get the plate I wanted.

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Jon Ison

posted on 20/2/05 at 01:42 PM Reply With Quote
yup Joel, its the perfect plate for me, the fact that it as "N" at the end makes it relativley cheap, JON 150W would fetch under £1k at DVLA aution so i expect JON 150N to be around the same, trouble is in 3 years they aint put it up for sale yet.






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ChrisW

posted on 20/2/05 at 07:25 PM Reply With Quote
The other trick to the number plate game - if the DVLA *don't* list it, it means the plate is already owned by someone. If you're serious about buying it....

1. Go to one of these online insurance quote places where they work out the car type from your plate (I think confused.com works like this). You'll have to make up a few details, but if the car details come up it will tell you the plate is on a car rather than a certificate

2. Assuming it's on a car, get a HPi mini check thing for about £10 which gives you the owners name

3. Ring him/her up and arrange a price without the middle man taking his commision

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Bart69

posted on 20/2/05 at 07:50 PM Reply With Quote
Hi guys great site been reading for about a year know so time for my first post.
If your locost is registered with a Q plate can you then change to a private plate.

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stevebubs

posted on 20/2/05 at 08:02 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bart69
Hi guys great site been reading for about a year know so time for my first post.
If your locost is registered with a Q plate can you then change to a private plate.


I don't think so. A Q is a Q and can't be changed.

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