theconrodkid
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 06:13 AM |
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election poll
election looming,who are you going to vote for?
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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200mph
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 06:51 AM |
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I was having a discussion/argument the other day, about whether not voting is a waste or not. I am kinda of the opinion that for me to vote,
the party would have to earn it. i.e. to say something that interests me or i agree with strongly enough to vote for said party. At the moment no-one
has really said anything that interests me, no-one has earned my vote. Thus, as it stands I probably won't vote.
Anyone have similar opinions, or am I throwing away everything our forefathers fought for?
And if I were to vote, I'd probably vote non-con, and non-labour...
cheers
Mark
[Edited on 6/4/05 by 200mph]
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dozracing
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 06:58 AM |
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I believe not voting is a vote in itself. If you don't want any of them because they aren't in your opinion worthy then not voting is
stating that opinion.
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steve m
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 07:02 AM |
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also by not voting means you can not complain when some muppetts get in and screw the country up
so no one at all votes ???
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Triton
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 07:03 AM |
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Bart Simpson gets my vote maybe Homer but kids always make more sense!!!
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 07:20 AM |
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I want a "none of the above" option on my voting form!
David
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Deckman001
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 07:23 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
I want a "none of the above" option on my voting form!
David
If they did that, you'd win !! hands down !! 
Jason
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 08:08 AM |
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we need a "I aint got a bloody clue" option.
Labour - not a chance in hell
Conservative - get serious!
Liberal - possibly but they have some really BAD ideas
tell you 3 things that would swing it for me
1, stop speed cameras in innappropriate places
2, sort out immigration
3, stop the ridiculous and pointless ID card bill
theres probably a few others but they would start the ball rolling
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 08:13 AM |
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What gets me is:
Everyone knows they're all lying.
They know they're lying.
But they still continue to lie.
No wonder that people aren't motivated enough to go and vote.
DJ
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matt_claydon
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 08:42 AM |
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Not voting doesn't really express the opinion that you don't want any of the candidates in, because most people who don't vote do it
because they just feel that their 1 vote won't make any difference. The only way to express dissatisfaction with the choice is to
'spoil' you ballot paper. At least then your non-vote will be counted and the number of people who did the same recorded.
Cheers,
Matt.
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phelpsa
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 08:46 AM |
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Im too young to vote But I have voted for who I would vote for
Adam
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I love speed :-P
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 08:52 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by phelpsa
Im too young to vote But I have voted for who I would vote for
Adam
me 2, i dont care who gets in at the min, cus i cant do anything about it, as long as it not the BNP and like
[Edited on 12/4/2005 by I love speed :-P]
Don't Steal
The Government doesn’t like the competition
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Snuggs
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 09:00 AM |
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Id like to see a hung parliament.
ALL OF THEM
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flak monkey
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 09:18 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by matt_claydon
Not voting doesn't really express the opinion that you don't want any of the candidates in, because most people who don't vote do it
because they just feel that their 1 vote won't make any difference. The only way to express dissatisfaction with the choice is to
'spoil' you ballot paper. At least then your non-vote will be counted and the number of people who did the same recorded.
Cheers,
Matt.
I totally agree with that statement.
They may all be lying, but some parties do it more than others....
TBH I'm suprised to see the conservatives winning this poll....  No one remember what happened last time they were in then?!
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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ned
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 09:22 AM |
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i'm wondering about a strategic vote! in my area labour is in a huge minority, but it's close betwen conservatives and lib dems.
prob is i think the conservative 'fear' campaign is the worst ever, i haven't heard a single one of their policies, just them trying
to slag off labour continually, i'm not convinced they could do any better. what a nonsense.
labour are on the right lines with their campaigns, but a vote for them in my area is a waste as they have no hope of getting the seat.
this leaves the lib dems who won't get into no.10 but might get a few more seats and have a sensiblish campaign ie we're staying out of
the labour/consrevative slanging match and we're against the war in iraq.
now, i don't think the conservatives are doing a bad job in my area, but do i vote for my area for the minor council changes that I prob
won't notice or the government level choices that might affect the main laws/bills passed by the no of seats the parties have?
or do i just spoil the ballot paper and abstain?!
yours strategically undecided,
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Benzine
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 10:57 AM |
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When I see that 5 people have voted for labour that's when i realise we're not going to make it as a race
Would be cool if only 5 people voted for them in the real election though 
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JoelP
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 11:18 AM |
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i dont have a clue myself - i have no confidence in any of their abilities. what a poor choice we have.
do any of them plan to build more prisons? that would win my vote atm.
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clbarclay
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 01:12 PM |
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The libs seam the best because there leader doesn't seam like a polition. (maby torys if they put boris in charge)
Personally all people with political ambition should be instantly band from being a politition, a bit like a knight hood.
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flyingkiwi
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 01:21 PM |
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I'm gonna vote for someone who wont ruin my life, allow me to beat up burgulers, spend my car tax on making roads better, ban speed
camera's except for outside schools, stop illigal imigration, increase the military budget thus improving my job and somewho who makes it a
jailable offence for their dog s**ting in public without cleaning it up.
Somehow I don't think any of them fit in this....... Might have to do the spoiling thing.
Cheers
Chris
[Edited on 6/4/05 by flyingkiwi]
It Runs!!!!! Bring on the SVA!
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dozracing
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 01:41 PM |
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What i find is really strange about the whole system is that we are supposed to vote for someone who will represent us in Parliament, and represent
the local needs. But instead we are actually voting for a government for the whole country, which is not neccessarily whats best for us locally.
Another thing that i find strange is that i don't know anyone who is openly a Labour voter, yet, they have won the last two elections.
At the end of the day we should probably run a poll to see if any of us actually believes there will be any difference to our lives who ever gets in.
Ned makes the comment asking us if we remember what happened last time un the Conservatives, do we know that Labour would have handled those
situations any differently had they been in then. Likewise would the Conservatives handle todays situations any better.
Under the last conservative riegn the country changed dramatically. More women went out to work, practically every household had two cars, many more
people owned their own houses. But, was this due to the Tory policies, or just life moving on. Similarly, we had 3 million un-employed, the first ever
credit card enspired borrowing problems, leading to massive economic problems. Was this caused by the government or just the way the world
develops?
I think we give them too much credit for the things that shape the country and the way we live. After all the party that gets in only bases its
decisions on the advice given by civil servants, and they don't change when the government changes.
Basically i think the face might change at Number 10, but, my life is only going to get harder day by day by the same amount no matter who gets
in.
Interesting point made earlier was that about speed cameras. Apparently back in the mid nineties the Canadian government won by a landslide with a
policy of withdrawing all speed cameras.
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andkilde
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 02:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dozracing
Apparently back in the mid nineties the Canadian government won by a landslide with a policy of withdrawing all speed cameras.
It was the Ontario government.
"Photo Radar" was only one issue in the campaign of the day -- getting rid of the speed cameras was the _ONLY_ decent thing those b*stards
did right -- the rest of their psycho right-wing policies turned the province into a virtual police-state.
I've been pepper-sprayed, truncheoned & punched in the face uncountable times in the course of my job (news photog). Some of it goes down to
the always strained relationship between police and journos but the atmosphere was definitley poisoned by those Conservative thugs.
Also, our speed cams were far less intrusive (abusive?) than yours, photos of rear plate only, fine to registered owner in the post, no points, no
insurance company notification.
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My big fear at the moment is that our current, Liberal minority, government may fall and put the crazy right-wingers in charge of the whole country.
They're a scary bunch of racist, homophobic, GW Bush loving freaks -- a couple of years of them in power will send us back to the dark
ages...
Cheers, Ted
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Russ-Turner
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 06:22 PM |
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I believe that Labour will do the best job for me and my country but i think that the media will ultimately decide who wins this election. Take
foxhunting for example. Think back to the uproar, column inches and general coverage that was dedicated to this issue. When in reality the only thing
that changed was that a fox was shot as soon as it was caught and not ripped to bits. The Tories seem full of hate and bitter about something; and the
Lib Dem's don't look like they could run a bath, let alone the country.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 06:35 PM |
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an indication of what a bunch of to$$ers the conservatives are :
Howard recons that before sending people who break asbos to prison, other sanctions can be made.
1. take their benefit away. yeah, right. even more incentive to rob and burgle.
2. take away their driving licenses. Like they would care.
how out of touch can you be?
Ive always voted labor since the big mistake of voting maggie in 1979.
Labour are not great, but could you seriously vote that upper middle class bunch of self serving twats that form the current conservatives in?
Lib dems wouldnt be able to deal with the shock of being elected, let alone have policies!
It was virtually admitted that the conservatives would slash public spending in real terms. they likely all have heath insurance. do you?
In the 25 years ive been paying a mortgage, its gone to 15% twice under the conservatives. Think hard on that one. What ever you are paying now would
at least double if rates when that high.
And what of the big 'labour isnt working' campaing maggie did in '79? just over a million were unemployed. when she was at her
worst, it was 3m plus. the conservatives were so arrogant they couldnt even see the stupidity of the poll tax.
I think blairs biggest problem is how pissed off the fox hunters and anti war lot are. perhaps the fox lot are most country people, who tend to vote
conservative.
I think not voting is daft. there may be a crap choice, but not voting at all gives you no right to bitch or mither at all over the next 4-5 years.
Yeah, speed cams are crap, and so is the nanny state nature of labour. But I cant see me trusting my mortgage or job to any other party. i cant pay
fines if im not working
atb
steve
[Edited on 6/4/05 by stephen_gusterson]
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Benzine
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 06:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
Ive always voted labor since the big mistake of voting maggie in 1979.
Labour are not great, but could you seriously vote that upper middle class bunch of self serving twats that form the current conservatives in?
Alan: "An ice cream van there. The swirly ice cream, I don’t know if you know, was invented by Margaret Thatcher, when she studied
chemistry at Oxford. Just one of the wonderful things she did before she was betrayed"
If they're good enough for Alan Partrdge, they're good enough for me
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robinbastd
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| posted on 6/4/05 at 09:54 PM |
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Found this and thought of you (all)
Conservatives - We want to make driving less of a misery
Shadow Transport Secretary Damian Green today said the Conservative Party wanted to "make driving less of a misery", as he unveiled
"a series of common sense practical measures" to enhance road safety.
He said: "We think that responsible drivers have been badly hit by this Government and we want to make driving less of a misery. What we are
proposing today is a series of common sense practical measures which will get the Government off the back of the sensible driver and restore
confidence in the way we enforce the speed limit."
Let us remember this "car hating" government on polling day.
Ian
Died in the wool right wing Tory.
Only a dead fish swims with the tide.
http://smuttygifts.com/
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