Hellfire
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| posted on 4/6/05 at 11:17 PM |
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Highest under age pregnancy rates in Europe
Why do we have them?
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[Edited on 4-6-05 by Hellfire]
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 4/6/05 at 11:27 PM |
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one reason
it is so easy to live on the governments benefits in this country that there is no real dissadvantage in becoming pregnant
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big_wasa
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| posted on 4/6/05 at 11:44 PM |
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In a nut shell...why work when you can just keep breeding
I see it all day long in my job Pees me right of ...
My m8 has to have an op on his knee and will only be able get stat sick....peanuts ...Yet we see people every day(in beter health than him )claiming
full disability and legally topping it up with a few hours work, so he brings home £150 Plus other beniffits ,,,Rent,council tax ect...Yet my m8 is
going to have to sell his half finished robin hood just to pay his bills when he is of work....I ask you who's the mug sorry for
going on..
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tks
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 12:29 AM |
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i think its because the girlies in the UK don't know how to protect them from it...
or maybe an 'when to stop with drinking campagne' is needed...dunno...
every way of beeing has disadvanteges..
and of the english people i think its one...of them..
Cheers anyway..
Tks
The above comments are always meant to be from the above persons perspective.
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Cita
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 06:56 AM |
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I think that's a question only the British can answer,if there is an answer that will satisfy you on this matter.
There nowadays are statistics on about every aspect of social live and I wonder why this is done,other than keeping highly educated people in
office.If it was done to solve the "problem" than I would agree on spending truckloads of money on these studies but i'm afraid that
they are only used as figures.
The suicide rates are,or used to be,much higher in th Scandinavian country's than in the rest of Europe,why?,they once,or still,have the highest
living standard in Europe.
Things like this (pregnant under age) are so complicated and have so much determent factors wich are uncontrollable, that it's impossible to
give a one way solution to the problem.
It's not a new problem,and it certainly is not a problem that only excists in England.
A nanny policy will take away people's responsability feeling and this could be one of the reasons why young people AND their parents doesnt
make to much out of it.
Besides...there is allways the girl in the next street who gave birth at age 13 so my daughter of 15 is much more up to the job and the government
will support us.
One can argue abouth the fact, is this really "News" and should it be covered by TV and newspapers.
What does the coverage of such news add to the value of society?Nothing.
We are only giving the feeling how bad it goes and that the government should do something (restricting?) about it.
.....I could be completely wrong though
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JoelP
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 07:21 AM |
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poor parenting.
do they really trust a school to deal with sex education? 
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 07:47 AM |
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my ex,s little sister got in the club at 17ish,was given a grotty flat,she was told she would get a better place if she had more kids,so she had
another and a nice house,never worked a day in her life,nice if you can get it
as a matter of interest how are underage mums treated in the rest of europe/ the world
[Edited on 5/6/05 by theconrodkid]
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 08:57 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Why do we have them?
Comments....
[Edited on 4-6-05 by Hellfire]
Dundee nuff said!
Have more and you get a better bigger house is TRUE by the way.
Numpty round here has never worked since leaving school yet has has a five bedroom house and his wife gets paid to care for one of the sick kids
(her own kid) Beat that.
Scr*w your way out of the getto!
[Edited on 5-6-05 by mangogrooveworkshop]
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zilspeed
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 09:40 AM |
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In no particular order or importance, I blame all of these. (P.S. this is where my inner right wing lunatic comes out).
Violence on telly.
Easily available benefits.
Bad parenting.
The demise of a sense of community
The demise of the extended family.
Easy availability of anything you want nowadays
the 24hr society
the internet
cheap booze
Long working hours for parents.
Both parents working (where present) - ooh controversial.
Latchkey kids - see above.
Disenchanted teachers - scared to engage in activity for the kids for all the usual reasons these days.
Kids no longer scared of the Janny.
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I won't go on.
We're all going to hell in a handcart
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big_wasa
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 10:23 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Easily available benefits.
Only if you are in the system and know how to play there game You try getting what your owed when you have spent your life paying it
When chating they honestly think that its there wages ie its another 2 weeks before I get my wages again
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britishtrident
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 10:27 AM |
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Honest guv I it wasn't me !
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zilspeed
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 10:54 AM |
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quote:
Only if you are in the system and know how to play there game You try getting what your owed when you have spent your life paying it
I don't doubt it...
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RoadkillUK
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 11:30 AM |
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It's just the easy money, why go working when instead you can have the following for free.
Free Money
Free Housing
Free Dental Care
Free Prescriptions
Free Council Tax
I'm sure the list goes on, but you tell me what incentive is there to go out and work 8 hours a day, 5 days a week for less money*?
* Generalisation that these young ladies have little to no education/skills.
Roadkill - Lee
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DavidM
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 11:36 AM |
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I can remember when teenage pregnancy was considered shameful. Now like everything else it seems to be an acceptable part of society, with anyone
expressing objections being silence by being branded a bigot or such like.
It is much too easy for them. The state "safety net" has become "state support". A world of difference.
A few years ago after 25 years of never having had a day off work, the company I worked for closed. When I went to the job centre looking for a job I
was told that I should sign on for benefits while I was looking as I had kids and a mortgage etc.
£80 a week is what they told me I would get after years of paying an arm and a leg in stoppages ech month. After expressing my discontent the bloke at
the job centre told me that my biggest mistake was working for a living! I didn't bother claiming, got another job within days.
Just don't get me started on the current state of society!
David
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 11:42 AM |
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someone in my wifes family is along these lines.
got preg at 16 to get a flat.
now discovers that life in a flat with a kid and bf fu$%ed off isnt particularly a good plan.
me, I was completely daft. got married, got a mortgage and moved 50 miles from everything I knew to get a start in life.
shoulda just got the gf up the duff. then id be stuck in the hell hole that is enfield in north london, rather than rural nothranmptonshire with
fields just 50mtrs from my house
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
my ex,s little sister got in the club at 17ish,was given a grotty flat,she was told she would get a better place if she had more kids,so she had
another and a nice house,never worked a day in her life,nice if you can get it
as a matter of interest how are underage mums treated in the rest of europe/ the world
[Edited on 5/6/05 by theconrodkid]
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 11:44 AM |
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when I was made redundant last xmas, i found out that unemployment benefit was 56 quid.
dunno how people work the system, but for me it was almost a complete waste of time. luckilly is was unemployed for 3 days and came out with a much
better job
atb
steve
quote:
Originally posted by DavidM
I can remember when teenage pregnancy was considered shameful. Now like everything else it seems to be an acceptable part of society, with anyone
expressing objections being silence by being branded a bigot or such like.
It is much too easy for them. The state "safety net" has become "state support". A world of difference.
A few years ago after 25 years of never having had a day off work, the company I worked for closed. When I went to the job centre looking for a job I
was told that I should sign on for benefits while I was looking as I had kids and a mortgage etc.
£80 a week is what they told me I would get after years of paying an arm and a leg in stoppages ech month. After expressing my discontent the bloke at
the job centre told me that my biggest mistake was working for a living! I didn't bother claiming, got another job within days.
Just don't get me started on the current state of society!
David
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jack trolley
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 06:09 PM |
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Teenage mothers to be
given make-overs to 'raise their self-esteem'
Give 'em a elastic band for a Croydon Facelift
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 06:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
poor parenting.
do they really trust a school to deal with sex education?
Yep, combine lack of parenting ability and lack of personal responsibility caused primarily by the previously mentioned nanny state and you have a
recipe for disaster. In fact this country appears to be cooking the whole bloody recipe book.
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 07:11 PM |
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i dont think easy benefit is the problem for under age prenancy , alll i can say is , i hope me and my Gf get some !!!
but she is 37 !!!
a lot of it is to do with social status , which in turn means benefits etc .
Anybody under the age of 16 isnt allowed to rent a flat , soo , they cant really play the game - its a case of miseducation and pier pressure to
'do it' - the result is the topic of conversation
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Noodle
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| posted on 5/6/05 at 07:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
In no particular order or importance, I blame all of these. (P.S. this is where my inner right wing lunatic comes out).
Violence on telly.
Easily available benefits.
Bad parenting.
The demise of a sense of community
The demise of the extended family.
Easy availability of anything you want nowadays
the 24hr society
the internet
cheap booze
Long working hours for parents.
Both parents working (where present) - ooh controversial.
Latchkey kids - see above.
Disenchanted teachers - scared to engage in activity for the kids for all the usual reasons these days.
Kids no longer scared of the Janny.
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I won't go on.
We're all going to hell in a handcart
You're right.
Neil.
Your sort make me sick
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