Ian Pearson
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| posted on 1/9/05 at 11:00 PM |
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CV Gaiter
I’m trying to replace the outer CV gaiter on a 1987 2.0L Celica GT. Never having done this before, I have no idea how it works, or comes apart! I’ve
removed the brake calliper and disc. The hub nut has finally come off. Can anyone tell me how I can separate the hub from the CV joint? I can separate
them to a degree, but the only way forward that I can see is to remove the hub/upright combination from the strut and lower wishbone. Hoping that
there may be an easier way?
Many thanks, Ian.
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DarrenW
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| posted on 2/9/05 at 08:25 AM |
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Dont know how to do it but one idea is to buy the gaitor from Toyota dealer and ask them if you can have a copy of the page from the workshop manual
or quickly ask to speak to one of the technicians.
I have seen gaitor fitting tools that stretch the gaitor over the CV joint - are they any good (i have also heard of people using a cut down 2litre
pop bottle to make a diy version. The Joint may become more stretchy if warmed up in hot water and a bit of lube (oil / vaseline) applied to the
bottle.
Just a thought - i havent done these before so hopefully someone can advise.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 2/9/05 at 09:20 AM |
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There is usually a circlip that retains the CV joint on the driveshaft splines. It will be buried in black grease, and you will need at least three
hands to simultaneously support the driveshaft, open the circlip and whack the CV joint with a soft hammer.
The cone tools are much, much easier. You won't find many garages today that separate CV joints to put new gaiters on.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 2/9/05 at 09:43 AM |
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quote: Originally posted by Ian Pearson
I’m trying to replace the outer CV gaiter on a 1987 2.0L Celica GT. Never having done this before, I have no idea how it works, or comes apart! I’ve
removed the brake calliper and disc. The hub nut has finally come off. Can anyone tell me how I can separate the hub from the CV joint? I can separate
them to a degree, but the only way forward that I can see is to remove the hub/upright combination from the strut and lower wishbone. Hoping that
there may be an easier way?
Many thanks, Ian.
you normally have to separate them, certainly from the lower joint, then sometimes you can pull the strut out far enough, sometimes not and you need
to take the upright off completely. Usually can get away without doing the latter in my experience though. If you put it on full lock with the bottom
balljoint off it should just pull out if you pull the strut outwards.
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Ian Pearson
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| posted on 2/9/05 at 09:48 AM |
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Thanks for the advice guys. I've bought an old style boot in the interest of"tightness", so I've got to split the joint.
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NS Dev
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| posted on 2/9/05 at 09:54 AM |
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I always use the good ol' ones, much better solution all round! Just a pain in the a to do
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DarrenW
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| posted on 2/9/05 at 10:03 AM |
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The cone tools are designed to stretch the good ole gaitor types over the CV joint so that you dont have to seperate the joint. You still need to pull
the drive shaft out of the hub tho. As NSDev says i have managed to do this by putting steering on full lock before, loosening the ball joints and
using a lever to force it over. If this doesnt work (and it can be a pain to get the drive shafts to align back into the hub with this method) then
the strut will need to be dropped down - not hard just more work.
I would never ever ever contemplate fitting one of those split boot types again.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 2/9/05 at 10:36 AM |
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Split gators are no use for other than a stop gap.
Usuall method these days is simply to undo the hub nut undo the top and botom balljoints and track rod knock the CV joint out the hub --- note
usually no need to disturb the disc but usually it helps to pull the caliper off and support on a bit of wire.
No need to dismantle anything else the boot is fitted using a nylon cone and lots of lubricant (I found Olive oil works really well).
QH make the only stretch boots worth considering -- all the rest are garbage.
The cone tool can be found for around 6 pounds if you shop around.
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DarrenW
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| posted on 2/9/05 at 11:14 AM |
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Mr Britishtrident - thanks for confirming that. I thought you could stretch them on but havent seen it done.
You wouldnt be in the trade would you - im always very impressed by the wealth of knowledge you have in your head.
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