Rek
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| posted on 10/9/05 at 04:50 PM |
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Fuel Tax Protest's
Just heard on the radio that the fuel tax protest thing is being planned for next week (M4 Rolling road block). I was wondering what people thought
about the whole deal.
Personally I have no view as I have a really boring job and can at least "Work from home" and get some work done on the car..
check this site out for more info.
http://www.fuelprotest.com/
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 10/9/05 at 04:58 PM |
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i hope they don't block the refineries again i work in a refinery and its a real pain in the arse going to and from work in a water taxi
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Northy
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| posted on 10/9/05 at 05:20 PM |
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That is one of the worst websites I've ever looked at 
Ideas right though. 
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing! 
"If a man says something in the woods and there are no women there, is he still wrong?"
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JoelP
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| posted on 10/9/05 at 05:49 PM |
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he hints at the truth, but continues to address the symptoms rather than the cause. High fuel tax is just a symptom, along with all the other taxes,
of a wasteful government. Thats what id like to change, but the bottom line is that democracy doesnt work in its current guise. You can choose between
muppet A and muppet B.
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Peteff
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| posted on 10/9/05 at 06:08 PM |
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You can choose between muppet A and muppet B
Isn't that what democracy is? As opposed to having no choice, which is called autocracy or totalitarianism. I have been reading about the fuel
price rises in U.S. where the tax or a percentage has been waived to keep the price down. It's as high as the equivalent of 33p a litre
apparently 
[Edited on 10/9/05 by Peteff]
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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sonic
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| posted on 10/9/05 at 06:50 PM |
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Were being RIPPED off at every opertunity and they know it!!
Apart from fuel prices which i am suprised has not been protested before now,i have never been able to understand the concept of income tax
If you go to school and do F--K all and leave with nothing,all you need to do is sign on the dole and you get free entry to places or a cheep rate
entry and if you want a house you Sh-GG some tart and get he pregnant and hay presto you get a house payed for and live happily everafter at our
expense.
However!!
If you go to school and work your but off and do well you leave and learn a trade or become a lawyer or something you get charged full price for
everything and guess what 40% tax
So the better you do the more you get taken off you to pay for these tossers
Can somebody explain that to me and explain why we put up with it?
Didnt Robin hood rob from the rich and give to the poor
Rant over!!!!!!
Good on the petrol protesters i say and we should all support them and get some justice
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chrisg
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| posted on 10/9/05 at 07:24 PM |
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I'm rertired these days so a fuel protest won't hit me as hard as some, but I think something has to be done.
It's not just fuel for the school run, or visiting your aunty, fuel prices affect the whole economy.
Everything you buy in the shops is delivered by road, fuel goes up, everything goes up.
The whole country runs on petrol, and most of it is tax, more tax from the most heavily taxed members of society - the motorist.
They're in danger of killing the goose that lays the golden egg.
I've been to visit one of my old college tutors this week, he has MS and he was very proud to show me his new Motability car. I know
he's had trouble keeping under the milage limit in the past and I asked him how he was doing with it
" I only go to fetch my pension these days - can't afford the petrol"
It was true, his two month old car had 64 miles on it.
Why does the government spend £12,000 to give a man his mobility back and then take it back by making the fuel so expensive that he can't go
out?
Makes me very sad.
Cheers
Chris
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Simon
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| posted on 10/9/05 at 11:23 PM |
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It's not the refineries that need blocking, it's Gordon Brown's ever deepening pockets.
Every opportunity he can, he hikes tax because, like most Chancellors, he's an optimist when it comes to economic growth. So far, his growth
plans have been revised downwards for the last three qtrs. Impressive.
That means he has to raise tax.
How?
Start a panic about global warming. The media love it, it sells papers. Gordon Brown loves it cos he can tax more.
I don't believe in Global Warming, it's a load of old shite.
Yeah, I know, it would be good to make things more environmentally sound, for the sake of everyones health, but GW is bollocks
ATB
Simon
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jonbeedle
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| posted on 11/9/05 at 10:47 AM |
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Too right! My mate has worked hard all his life and is due to retire. He will get LESS pension than his sponging tosser of a brother who has been on
the sick for years with a so called bad back claiming disability allowance off the state, getting provided with a free car and getting his mortgage
paid AND illegally working on the side as a lorry driver. People like you and me are working to keep these wasters in new cars and mortgage free homes
and now the government want to give kids loads of money which is really going to motivate them to work and make something of themselves.....NOT! It
will more likely breed a new generation of sponging wasters who think the world owes them a living. How about giving more to the people who have
earned it throughout their lives by paying into the system instead of looking after the wasters in this country!
quote:
Originally posted by sonic
Were being RIPPED off at every opertunity and they know it!!
Apart from fuel prices which i am suprised has not been protested before now,i have never been able to understand the concept of income tax
If you go to school and do F--K all and leave with nothing,all you need to do is sign on the dole and you get free entry to places or a cheep rate
entry and if you want a house you Sh-GG some tart and get he pregnant and hay presto you get a house payed for and live happily everafter at our
expense.
However!!
If you go to school and work your but off and do well you leave and learn a trade or become a lawyer or something you get charged full price for
everything and guess what 40% tax
So the better you do the more you get taken off you to pay for these tossers
Can somebody explain that to me and explain why we put up with it?
Didnt Robin hood rob from the rich and give to the poor
Rant over!!!!!!
Good on the petrol protesters i say and we should all support them and get some justice
"Everyone is entitled to an opinion however stupid!"
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steve_gus
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| posted on 11/9/05 at 11:47 AM |
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I think there are some stange misconceptions here.
(BTW Jon - didnt the govt stop supporting mortgages years ago..... used to be unemployed could get the interest paid, but thats long gone i think -
along with mortgage tax relief).
One is the social state. When I was unemployed for a short while at the beginning of the year, I looked up how much benefit I would get. It was 56
friggin quid to support a family of four adults (19 and 17 year olds in local college). I have no idea of how people are supposed to live the life
of riley on the dole. It must be cos they have 17 kids and the like. I cant see how its done. At the end of the day it must be council accomodation
subsitance living driving a 15 year old lada, no holidays, and daytime tv, which wouldnt be my lifestyle choice.
Secondly, I hate tax as much as the next man. There seems to be, however, a misconception that the govt is raking it in. Where does the raked in
money go? It goes on running the country. (some of it might go to wayne slob, the dole merchant, but not all). The money is going to support the
overall budget. If you want the NHS, pension for your granny, roads (crappy as they are) its all gotta be paid for.
Or does the govt have this huge slush fund tucked away? I dont think so.
I think the issue with fuel tax as it is, is that the base price of fuel has gone so high, that the proportion of tax being raised is higher than the
govt expected. I dont expect fuel tax to be lowered (the revenue has to come from someplace) - I would at least expect it to be capped. That way, a
penny on crude wont end up with 5p on a litre once its hit the govt's expected tax generation point.
Why not take it out on the fuel companies.
Why should it cost more than double it did last year to get the same stuff out of the same hole in the ground? If its, as claimed, due to shortages,
have you seen any shortage?????????????
On the bright side, if you have a pension plan, some of its gonna be in the fuel companies, so perhaps you might see some of it back in many years
time....
atb
steve
[Edited on 11/9/05 by steve_gus]
http://www.locostbuilder.co.uk
Just knock off the 's'!
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Noodle
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| posted on 11/9/05 at 11:55 AM |
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The Norweigans have a splendid system. While they pay tax through the nose, like us, their government puts revenues from North Sea oil into a fund,
unlike us, for when the oil runs out.
For every citizen, they've a £22,000 fund or £103bn.
Saving for the future. Now there's a novelty.
Cheers,
Neil.
p.s. I didn't vote for this lot, but I don't think there's anything intrinsically evil about them, they're just could up in a
sort of general liberal malaise that's now woven into society's fabric.
Your sort make me sick
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