David Jenkins
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 08:20 AM |
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Decorating nightmare! (nowt to do with cars, unfortunately)
At the moment I'm trying to earn some Brownie Points by re-decorating our bedroom. Trouble is, what should have been an easy job is escalating
into a huge time-waster, and it's interfering with my garage duties.
The current problem is the emulsion paint on the walls - started to tidy up the existing paint, ready to put a new coat on. Started to scrape off
some flaky bits - and almost all the paint came off in sheets, like wallpaper. I don't think the original painter primed the plaster before
putting on the first coat. 
The trouble now is that 80% of the paint came off with no trouble - it only took an hour or so - but what's left is stuck on hard. If I
overpaint it'll look like a relief map. If I scrape it off, I'll wreck the plaster.
Has anyone else had this problem and, if so, how did they fix it?
cheers,
David
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flak monkey
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 08:27 AM |
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Take an electric sander to the stuck paint. Use some coarse paper and you will soon sort it.
Messy job though.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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serendipity123
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 08:33 AM |
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pay someone £200 to do it whilst shes at work, my mrs thinks i'm a great decorator lol. if only she knew
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 08:49 AM |
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Two problems:
1. I've just paid a packet to a decorator who painted all the wood on the outside of my house, so there's little cash left;
2. Any half-decent decorator has to be booked weeks/months in advance, and I want to get this job done!
Once these walls are done, it's just a day or two's work to finish the whole room - the whole thing's a PITA...
I HATE DECORATING!
Thank you for listening.
David
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DarrenW
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 08:54 AM |
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Only solution i can think of is to sand it off. Very messy. Room might have to be emptied and door taped up to reduce dust in rest of house. You can
try doing by hand but itll take ages.
Can you put some posters / pics up over the bad bits?
I recently decorated hall, stairs, landing, kitchen and cloakroom inc ceilings and gloss work. I was the best paid decorator in the county that week -
£699. Strangely enough exactly how much my digidash cost!
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Dusty
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 09:02 AM |
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Paper the room wil blown relief vinyl and emulsion over that. Hides all sorts of wall horrors.
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 09:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dusty
Paper the room wil blown relief vinyl and emulsion over that. Hides all sorts of wall horrors.
That's the last resort - I'm crap at papering walls! 
David
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 09:21 AM |
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Rub it down then seal with pva coat with a good brand of paint then flat with light sand
Good top coat and its done.
The key is the PVA glue.....When Jas came round to do the walls in the bath room he used that to seal them.......Yep suprised me too!
U2U a moby number to me and I will ask my decorator neighbour (fellow petrol head)
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serendipity123
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 09:26 AM |
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wood chip thats what you need lol
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nick205
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 09:33 AM |
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DJ
Had the same problem in my hallway - an absolute PITFA
In the end I blended the paint to the plaster as best I could by sanding, then sealed the complete wall with PVA. Next I applied a generous coat of
Polycell Polyfilla paint - marvellous stuff! It forms a thick skin which resists cracking, fills most minor blemishes and helped reduce the step
between the old paint and the plaster. The a couple of coats of the desired colour and the jobs done.
Now I'm just about to move house and start all over again  and people keep asking why the car's not finished yet
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Browser
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 09:46 AM |
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Glad it's not just me stuck with this sort of crap, and yes, it's stopping em gettign anywhere with the car!
Had exactly the same problem in my daughters room and now have exactly the same problem in my hall way. As stated before sand it or, if you can get
hold of one, use a steam wallpaper stripper to soften the paint and then scrape it off. Use carefully so the plaster don't get waterlogged.
Nick 205, thanks for the tip about polyfilla paint, is
this the stuff?
[Edited on 19/10/05 by Browser]
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 09:53 AM |
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This stuff I think...
...worth considering.
David
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marcyboy
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 10:17 AM |
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you could just rub down the edges or make a feature out of it ....
or put sand in the emulsion to give it some texture
[Edited on 19/10/05 by marcyboy]
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serendipity123
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 10:21 AM |
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bring in the compressor from the garage and spray it
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 10:27 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by serendipity123
bring in the compressor from the garage and spray it
I don't want to add a hernia to my problems!
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locogeoff
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 11:35 AM |
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Remember that the man that invented decorating wants fooking, and the man that invented fooking wants decorating
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nick205
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 12:14 PM |
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that's the very stuff boys - works a treat, but not cheap
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Browser
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 12:28 PM |
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Thanks Nick, I'll see what the chief decorator (a.k.a. SWMBO/The Boss/'er indoors) says
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NS Dev
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 01:32 PM |
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electric sander is the answer
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VinceGledhill
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 02:18 PM |
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If you do go the electric sander route then get a dust mask.
It killed my father in law. I kid you not.
OTOH a wallpaper steam stripper on the paint loosens it enough to remove it like walpaper with a scraper. Not anything like as messy as sanding.
Regards
Vince Gledhill
Time Served Auto Electrician
Lucas Leeds 1979-1983
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iank
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 02:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by VinceGledhill
If you do go the electric sander route then get a dust mask.
It killed my father in law. I kid you not.
Agreed, and not one of the crappy paper and elastic band jobbies - they really don't work too well IMO.
I managed to borrow one of these air fed jobbies and it made the whole experience much easier as it keeps the crap out of your eyes and lungs. Not
cheap though
Link to fancy dust mask
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 02:46 PM |
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Don't worry - I won't be doing any power-sanding! Too much dust for my liking (and SWMBO will object).
I reckon I may try the steam-powered wallpaper stripper (as I have one at home anyway), followed by the Polycell BaseCoat stuff. The most I may try
is hand-sanding the edges of the painted bits to reduce the step.
cheers to all,
David
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Messenjah
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 03:24 PM |
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lol redecorating atm aswell oldr bother left for uni and we are swapping his room with my younger brothers unfortunately my older brother didnt want
the same colour scheme (big brightly coloured squares with a border that has tractors on it  ) so we are having to paint over it all weekend was
spent flilling the little dents and the lines that we masked off inbetween the squares or colour and sanding down so that its all the same level and
now we are painting white ...
white paint over vibrant strong colours = LOTS OF COATS
the whole room has had about 6 coats of white and needs another one atleast
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 03:29 PM |
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It's probably too late now, but that BaseCoat stuff is supposed to be good for obliterating old colour schemes...
DJ
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steve m
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| posted on 19/10/05 at 04:27 PM |
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Dave
move house, problem solved !!!
or, as i had to do in my kitchen as two of the walls were in a terrible condition, was plasterboard them
steve
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