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Scotty

posted on 21/11/05 at 01:47 PM Reply With Quote
Wal-Mart employee fired for Christmas email

probably going to regret posting this one, but hey, its information

Linky

AND I'M NOT TAKING SIDES, CITA !!!



[Edited on 21/11/05 by Scotty]





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andyace

posted on 21/11/05 at 01:57 PM Reply With Quote
Only in America
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Scotty

posted on 21/11/05 at 02:06 PM Reply With Quote
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
dont say that !

tooo late

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BKLOCO

posted on 21/11/05 at 02:20 PM Reply With Quote
I wihs it was "only in America" but unfortunately this sort of PC buIIsh1t is happening more and more over here....





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NS Dev

posted on 21/11/05 at 02:21 PM Reply With Quote
...........................I thought it was the americans that referred to us as the "stiff-ass brits".....................times would appear to be a-changing!
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flak monkey

posted on 21/11/05 at 02:46 PM Reply With Quote
Its a show of the christian religious fundamentalism (christian right) in America. It exists everywhere, but seems to be most prominent in the US.

It seems that she got in trouble only for explaining the true sources of the things we regard as christian, it was after all the Catholic League that made a fuss...

Her saying this:
"Santa is also borrowed from the Caucasus, mistletoe from the Celts, yule log from the Goths, the time from the Visigoth and the tree from the worship of Baal. It is a wide wide world"

Is quite correct, very few of the symbols of the christian celebration of Christmas are actually of christian descent, but have been borrowed from many other faiths/cults.

There was recently a thing in the US that they wouldnt teach evolution in schools due to it going against what is written in the bible (however it does not unless you take what is written literally, which you shouldnt). However this is the same country where religious education is banned in schools...

Political correctness is going too far in a lot of countries. Soon it will be difficult to say anything incase you offend someone in someway. And in a lot of cases its being enforced through the minorities claiming to be treated unfairly, and have our culture forced upon them. Imagine how upset the Indian population would be if we said they couldnt call Diwali that anymore...there would be a huge fuss! However if some other faiths get together and say they are offended by Christmas, then we just seem to take it and let them have their way.

Now I am by no means racist or otherwise, however, if you are in a country where the predominant faith is Christian, then you should respect the right for Christians to celebrate their holidays, just as we let them celebrate theirs. Likewise they should respect the culture of the country as a whole, and not expect it to change. If you live in the UK, you live by the culture of the UK. Like it or lump it as far as I am concerned.

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dl_peabody

posted on 21/11/05 at 03:09 PM Reply With Quote
Before you bash America too much don't you guys recognize "Jedi" as an official religion?

Jedi Knights achieve official recognition as a religion....
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/10/09/jedi_knights_achieve_official_recognition/

OK with that in mind...carry on.

[Edited on 21/11/05 by dl_peabody]

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JoelP

posted on 21/11/05 at 04:50 PM Reply With Quote
the jedi thing was a big joke at the time, we all filled jedi out on census forms to try to get it listed as a real religeon, for a laugh. It didnt work though did it?!






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MikeR

posted on 21/11/05 at 04:54 PM Reply With Quote
Oi, leave my religion alone ......



yeah, i really did do that!

may the force be with you.

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JoelP

posted on 21/11/05 at 05:06 PM Reply With Quote
me too!






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steve_gus

posted on 21/11/05 at 08:20 PM Reply With Quote
I was in the states over xmas 9 years ago.

I was struck by two things.

1. that their attitude to xmas decorations is way over the top (i like it) - the recommended amount of lights for a 6ft tree was 500+ on the packet I read.

2. And that everone says happy holidays, and not xmas.


I pointed this out on the net once and had an American bite my head off.


atb

steve


PS

if there is a seperation between state and religion, why does american money say 'in god we trust' and the last sentance of most presidents is 'god bless america'.

Anyone ever heard a brit politician say 'god bless the uk'

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JoelP

posted on 21/11/05 at 08:49 PM Reply With Quote
i think its just an oddity. Ie, the pc brigade hasnt caught up yet! there was something a while ago about god in the courthouse, wasnt it the ten commandments?

all nonsense to me. Its nice that we're not alone in going 'to hell in a handcart' (forgive the religious refference )






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Simon

posted on 21/11/05 at 11:15 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dl_peabody
Before you bash America too much don't you guys recognize "Jedi" as an official religion?

Jedi Knights achieve official recognition as a religion....
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/10/09/jedi_knights_achieve_official_recognition/

OK with that in mind...carry on.

[Edited on 21/11/05 by dl_peabody]


Absolutely - but at least I can't marry my goat

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James

posted on 21/11/05 at 11:25 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeR
Oi, leave my religion alone ......



yeah, i really did do that!

may the force be with you.


quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
me too!



By which I'm sorry to say that both you and the thousands of others who put it showed your ignorance of Star Wars!



A Jedi Knight is, of course, just a practitioner or user of The Force. Ie someone who follows the Jedi Code. Much like (in Christian terms) a vicar or priest would be a practitioner of their religion.

If people were going to put anything on the census they should have put that their religion was The Force!!!

Still don't believe me?:
Han Solo: "Hokey religions are all very well but there's no substitute for a good blaster by your side"
Luke Skywalker: "You don't believe in The Force do you?"
Han Solo: "Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other and I've never seen anything that makes me think there's an all-powerful force that controls *everything*. There's no mystical energy field that controls *my* destiny."

Okay, that was paraphrased somewhat as I'm a little out of touch but you get the idea.

Saying Jedi Knight is your religion is the same as saying Vicar is your religion.



Hmmm, some may say I take these things too seriously!

Cheers,
James
who did aswell as the person who had Star Wars episodes 4-6 as their specialist subject on Mastermind... having not seen them more than once each in 5 years (ie. when the suicide inducingly poor Phantom Menace came out! ).





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dl_peabody

posted on 22/11/05 at 03:38 AM Reply With Quote
Just got back from work to read the results of my post....

The usa is too PC....
but occassionally there is a backlash.
Taget (stores) recently it announced it would no longer let salvation army ask for alms in front of their stores (in a bid for seration between chrch and store.....they got boycotted and it hurt their bottom line)

I have NEVER heard anyone say merry xmas...HAppy holidays yes...most often Merry Christmas.

Yes the holidays in gereral are a mixture of pagan holdays and rituals...Americans dont wanna think about it though.

G*d on the money some people are trying to change that...cause they are offended. What ever...

Pledge to the Flag..the Courts rule the pledge to the flag voluntary...an athesist Dad sued because the term " one nation under G*d"...not that his kid had to say it but because his kid heard it and was/could have been offended. More like a hair up Dad bum than anything else....big uproar over that but it may stick...liberal califonia courts.

The problem with PC is that we get decissions, policies, and laws made because of a small minority.
quote:

Absolutely - but at least I can't marry my goat ...


Here some farmer will want to marry his goat screaming discrimination because he cant....

Dress your mate up in a goat out fit and some places you can marry him. Some are trying to get legal rights to marry in a church even if it is against the churches policy to marry gays or lesbians...scream discrimination if they dont.

What happens when a minority keeps pushing the limits, soon the limits disappear and then anything goes....marry your mate, marry a goat, marry your neice...

It is amazing that they insist you open your mind to accept their point of view but shout you down if they dont agree with you. Freedom of speech for everyone except the opposition...Sigh.

Strange world everywhere...I heard Joan Rivers was recently on your TV and a former "Black Panther" tried to call her a racist..she tore him up.

[Edited on 22/11/05 by dl_peabody]

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MikeR

posted on 22/11/05 at 05:33 PM Reply With Quote
James ......... chill. the jedi thing was a bit of fun. Like us all putting our religion down as locost builders ........ hmmm, maybe next time!

anyway, just means you can't be in my gang !

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steve_gus

posted on 22/11/05 at 10:51 PM Reply With Quote
DL Peabody - it was radio actually.

I wouldnt say she tore him up - but she did make her point

this is exactly how it went

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4360054.stm

atb

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