oliwb
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| posted on 5/2/06 at 11:30 PM |
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Lada Niva V8??
Hey does anyone know whether it would be possible to squeeze a rover v8 into a Lada Niva??? Seen some references to ford and AMC ones fitting but
never a rover??? Was thinking a complete swap with range rover engine and gearbox......V6's deffinately fit also......Cheers for any
info.....Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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mookaloid
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| posted on 5/2/06 at 11:35 PM |
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No idea but here's a question for you -
Why would you want to????
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Triton
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| posted on 5/2/06 at 11:37 PM |
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I was going to ask that Surely the Landrover is a far better beast than the Lada?
My Daughter has taken over production of the damn fine Triton race seats and her contact email is emmatrs@live.co.uk.
www.tritonraceseats.com
www.hairyhedgehog.com
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froggy
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| posted on 5/2/06 at 11:52 PM |
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me and a mate share a 4x4 panda for the odd offroad day and the panda and niva are miles better than you would think. both are as capable as leaf
sprung landie and a lot of lada,s now use the 8v carlton engine which im told mates up to the lada box. its possible to fit the engine but doubt the
transmission would cope and the range rover chassis would need 16" cutting out of it to fit under ther lada
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ed_crouch
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| posted on 5/2/06 at 11:55 PM |
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Lada Niva cossacks are second only to Landies for mudplugging.
Believe it or not!
Ed.
I-iii-iii-iii-ts ME!
Hurrah.
www.wings-and-wheels.net
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akumabito
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| posted on 6/2/06 at 03:54 AM |
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Love the Niva's!
Well, size-wise I don't think it shold be much of a problem fitting a RV8.. though you may have to move the battery elesewhere to make room.
Froggy, do you have pics of your Panda 4x4 going offroad? I'm a member of the Dutch Fiat Panda Club, and new pics are always welcome!
[Edited on 6/2/06 by akumabito]
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Stuart Ainslie
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| posted on 6/2/06 at 08:06 AM |
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I've owned 2 Niva's, 1 a late model Cossack. Briliant off roaders and useable on-road too..
Better than the Range Rover that I sold the Cossack to buy!
Rover v8's have been fitted to Niva's, I remember seeing it on an 'enthusiasts' site but can't remember the URL.
Always worth searching as 'Vaz' on Google..
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 6/2/06 at 08:09 AM |
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ive owned 2 niva,s as well,loads better off road than a rover product,just a bit lacking in the power dept
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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Johnmor
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| posted on 6/2/06 at 08:53 AM |
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Lada
Not sure if this is any help but I had a Lada some years back, tough as old boots.
But for a power increase you could use the Fiat Twincam as it bolted onto the existing bellhousing, because the saloon car was based on the fiat (124
or 128?)
If the engine in the Cosack is the original 1600? may be a different block but it wouldn't suprise me if it remained the same.
The Fiat/ Lancia is good little engine 120bhp and 120lbs torque, would be a lot easier than a V8.
Saw this engine used in a Landrover s3 86" and if it can haule that lump about it can certainly push a Niva.
Won't sound as good though.
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oliwb
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| posted on 6/2/06 at 09:38 AM |
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Basically this mate of mine has three lada niva's lying around doing nothing.....He wants a landy to do up eventually and only bought the
lada's because he doesn't like taking his tomb raider 110 off road as last time he did alot of damage....The lada's are all the 1.7
versions. Have heard about the fiat engine but torque and power are too far up the range for what he wants....Plus you just can't beat the
noise! I've also heard of the transmission and half shafts being able to cope with upto 160 hp so they should be able to manage a relatively
standard rover v8. The plan is to hopefully transfer the v8 and gearbox from an old rangerover into the lada chassis and have new propshafts made up
to suit.....I was just wondering if people thought that it would physicaly fit as I've only looked under the lada 1 about a year ago and
wasn't really thinking of it at the time! Cheers Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 6/2/06 at 11:39 AM |
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i had a lada riva with a V8 fitted , in fact it was the one shown at the doncaster custom car show .
the nivas are just as well specced as the landies , and just as tough , locking diffs being one of em .
Fiat twin cam will fit straight on the gearbox , 2 litre 150 hp will do nicely thank you sir .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
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oliwb
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| posted on 6/2/06 at 02:02 PM |
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I could never bring myself to do that to a fiat twin cam! Besides I have friends that would murder me if they knew I had a fiat twin cam and
didn't tell them!) Oli.
How was your V8 setup?? transmission etc and have you got any pics or names of who did it etc...??? Cheers
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 6/2/06 at 03:23 PM |
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well being a riva , the steering box and arm had been cut and rewelded for a start , the oil filter stuck through the front apron , and the radiator
was in the boot .
it was a tad too big really for the engine bay , it used a std rover 5 speed .
id say pick on a v6 thats ally and use that - would be much better conversion in the end .
my thoughts reside with a nissan V6 , or a cossie escort setup , the dimensions arent that far out .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
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oliwb
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| posted on 6/2/06 at 03:26 PM |
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hmm really looking for the torque factor for off-roading competitions...so if not v8 power then probably gonna go diesel....maybe diahatsu 2.8
turbo...or iveco 2.8 etc looking for that real low down grunt....but the noise of the v8 ahhh! Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 6/2/06 at 04:32 PM |
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its possible to fit the v8 - but you might make more headaches in the long run .
a large straight six , might also be tooo long .
What about supercharging the original lump ? Mr2 superchargers are easy to get at , fab a few brackets .
an american chap supercharged his volvo with just a serpentine belt , dexion brackets , tie wraps and it was really very good , LOL
this is the link dedicated to the supercharged volvo .
http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=10467&highlight=supercharging
[Edited on 6/2/06 by Volvorsport]
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
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ettore bugatti
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| posted on 6/2/06 at 07:54 PM |
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Fiat/ Lancia Twincam Turbo.
hmmmm....
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wilkingj
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| posted on 6/2/06 at 10:51 PM |
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Speaking as a dyed in the wool Land Rover man...
Dont underestimate the Lada Cossack / Niva.
Its a very capable vehicle. Basic but capable (bit like a Landrover)
If you cant get a Fiat twincam...
Fit a turbocharged Isuzu 2.2 Diesel... It makes a very very nice conversioin with loads of torque, good power, and fairly good economy.
Been in a mates one... and the conversion made a hell of a difference.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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clbarclay
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| posted on 8/2/06 at 02:28 AM |
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So i'm told one of the lada's secret wepons is a LSD in the rear axle, giving effectively a minimum of 3 wheel drive, compared to a
landrover which has a minimum 2 wheel drive when the going gets bad.
Definatly a case of hourses for courses though when it comes to 4x4's each has there own advantages/disadvantages.
[Edited on 8/2/06 by clbarclay]
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oliwb
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| posted on 10/2/06 at 02:16 PM |
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Don't get me wrong I'm very much a landy man (have two - sort of) and my mate who actually owns the lada has a 110 landy which is why he
bought them because his is a tomb raider ltd edition one and he was doing too much damage to it off road....so now he has 3 lada's and a shed
load of bits....one of his mates is doing the other lada (2.5 diesel nissan engine - bolts straight on) and I wanna put a v8 in the other. Its saving
me some money as I was gonna find another project but this way he's gonna pay for everything and I get to work on it....also had a few ppl say
that if I make a good job of it they may trust me to do their landy's for competition use aswell so could end up being a bit of a business
venture! At the moment I still need to crawl around under one and finish the tiger before I start anything else! But am thinking rover v8 onto ford
type 9 gearbox to lada transfer box to original lada diffs etc.....so would only have to fabricate shaft to transmission box, sump for fr diff and
engine mounts.....still would rather be auto though so maybe spaceframe chassis to fit range rover engine and box with lada axles and then body on
top....not sure though! Cheers Oli.
If your not living life on the edge you're taking up too much room!
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NS Dev
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| posted on 10/2/06 at 02:28 PM |
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Just thinking aloud, the Niva 'box is just a std Riva box isn't it, i.e. a std rwd box.
What about the running gear out of a dead capri 2.8i in the front?
Yes a bit heavy but bags of torque, they NEVER break, more revs than the rover for the tricky spots, 160hp as std, nice noise and dirt cheap. Also
have mechanical (well, K-Jetronic which is effectively mechanical) injection which again never goes wrong, plus they are very water tolerant due to
dizzy location (my old mk 2 granny 2.8i used to love floods, was hilarious!!!)
If I were after a torquey nice sounding easy to live with ready made lump then that would be my choice, especially in an offroader where weight
isn't really an issue...................in fact you've got me thinking now!!!!!!!
Retro RWD is the way forward...........automotive fabrication, car restoration, sheetmetal work, engine conversion
retro car restoration and tuning
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