PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 24/4/08 at 06:59 PM |
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Teesside Video battle of the kawasaki's
A bit more of Teesside,about 3 minutes into the video,ZX10R meets ZX12R Hellfire,let battle commence,great fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW0dSH4fUTY
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bigrich
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| posted on 24/4/08 at 07:15 PM |
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Cracking footage Paul,
would you say that the zx10r is a pretty safe motor after the track work you have done recently, and did you ever get a baffle plate for it or not
Rich
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A pint for the gent and a white wine/fruit based drink for the lady. Those are the rules
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worX
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| posted on 24/4/08 at 07:31 PM |
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A Billet sump for the ZX10R may be coming soon if you two want more peace of mind!!!
Steve
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Hellfire
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| posted on 24/4/08 at 08:44 PM |
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Nice bit of video Paul... that engine seems good but the real difference is the difference in chassis. It's amazing how much of an improvement
that new chassis is over the old one...
I still think the 12 has the edge... 
Steve
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eznfrank
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| posted on 24/4/08 at 08:46 PM |
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I'm sure the new one handles real well but I just think it doesn't look quite right with coilovers tucked away.
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Coose
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| posted on 24/4/08 at 08:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
I still think the 12 has the edge...
Steve
Sorry old chap, but from where I was stood the 12 was being nicely reeled in!!! 
Spin 'er off Well...
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Hellfire
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| posted on 24/4/08 at 08:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Coose
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
I still think the 12 has the edge...
Steve
Sorry old chap, but from where I was stood the 12 was being nicely reeled in!!!
Which brings me back to the point about the chassis... Paul said himself on the back straight we had the edge. Put your little wooden spoon away you
 to add to that it was me driving - I haven't driven our car for 6 months!!!! Pauls' car was being hard accelerated
mid-corner, if I'd have tried that in ours, I'd have ended up in many a gravel trap - oh hang on a bit - I did!!!
I still had loads of fun - pottering along... but I'm not happy at all with the way ours handled. Still, now it's damaged it may be time
to move on...
Steve
[Edited on 24-4-08 by Hellfire]
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jacko
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| posted on 24/4/08 at 09:21 PM |
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Was Keith driving
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 24/4/08 at 09:57 PM |
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I would agree with Steve on the new chassis,because I am not that good a driver,there's a even bigger difference between it and the old chassis
than even I first thought when I drove the 1st one at donnington 2 years ago,you can get the power down much earlier out of the corners,also I was
cheating a bit with a trickshifter,full throttle upshifts has got to make a couple of metres per gearchange,I might have forgot to tell Steve I had
one of them fitted
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 24/4/08 at 10:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bigrich
Cracking footage Paul,
would you say that the zx10r is a pretty safe motor after the track work you have done recently, and did you ever get a baffle plate for it or not
Rich
Touch wood Rich,no problems yet,Malc said they would be ok,and so far he's right.Ive not got a baffle fitted either,Andy at AB performance has
offered to make some if I can get him a engine down to him,but I am too bone idle to go all the way down there.
Done a Cadwell,Bruntingthorpe on slicks ,and now Teesside,so its bound to go now,and someone will say,I told you so going to bruntingthorpe again
on Saturday,so fingers crossed.
I would be interested in a billet sump Steve "worX" have you any details
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IDONTBELEIVEIT
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| posted on 24/4/08 at 10:21 PM |
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top vid,just come down from me workshop for a quick beer,and some inspiration,just what i needed,back to me build
Are We There Yet, Are We There Yet!!!!
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Hellfire
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| posted on 24/4/08 at 10:28 PM |
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Paul,
When you removed your bonnet I realised what we were up against. The trickshifter that Alan (wadders) has made a massive difference on upshifts. I was
well impressed!
I would say that the new chassis (together with a full roll cage) made the whole setup stiffer and more predictable. When I was spectating on the fast
left negative camber corner - you were accelerating mid-pre corner, in the original Indy there is very little you could do with this as it just spits
you off at almost every opportunity on a track.
Steve
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Dragon-Performance-Eu
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 06:14 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
I'm not happy at all with the way ours handled. Still, now it's damaged it may be time to move on...
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Coose
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 09:10 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Which brings me back to the point about the chassis... Paul said himself on the back straight we had the edge. Put your little wooden spoon away you
to add to that it was me driving - I haven't driven our car for 6 months!!!!
I'm just jealous as you lot were out on track and I wasn't.... 
I'll have a Fury/Phoenix in a few years though, you mark my words!
Spin 'er off Well...
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worX
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 10:59 AM |
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Sent you a U2U mate!quote:
Originally posted by PAUL FISHERI would be interested in a billet sump Steve "worX" have you any details
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Hellfire
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 11:10 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dragon-Performance-Eu
quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
I'm not happy at all with the way ours handled. Still, now it's damaged it may be time to move on...
All the other Indys apart from ours seemed to be handling quite well though, so there's scope for improvement.
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Dragon-Performance-Eu
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 11:46 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
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Originally posted by Dragon-Performance-Eu
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Originally posted by Hellfire
I'm not happy at all with the way ours handled. Still, now it's damaged it may be time to move on...
All the other Indys apart from ours seemed to be handling quite well though, so there's scope for improvement.
So whats the problem, a rogue chassis or badly put together ?
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Guinness
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 11:49 AM |
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Looks like Peter managed to capture the battle!
Mike
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 11:53 AM |
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Did you get any footage Steve from your camera after I went passed,be good to link the two together,and see how mine looked from behind in the
handling department
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Hellfire
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 12:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dragon-Performance-Eu
So whats the problem, a rogue chassis or badly put together ?
Could possibly be wear on the bushes. Difficult to say really until we take them apart. Talking about "badly put together", you never did
attend many shows or trackdays. I wonder why?....................
Phil
PS - Paul, we've got some good footage of yours from behind.
[Edited on 25-4-08 by Hellfire]
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Dragon-Performance-Eu
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 12:23 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Could possibly be wear on the bushes. Difficult to say really until we take them apart. Talking about "badly put together", you never did
attend many shows or trackdays. I wonder why?....................
Phil
[Edited on 25-4-08 by Hellfire]
hehehe..............
Those who are comfortable with their own work have no need to show and seek the praise of others.
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Andy D
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 01:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
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Originally posted by Dragon-Performance-Eu
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Originally posted by Hellfire
I'm not happy at all with the way ours handled. Still, now it's damaged it may be time to move on...
All the other Indys apart from ours seemed to be handling quite well though, so there's scope for improvement.
I have some vid following the Hellfire car two up, and actually looks a lot more stable in the corners. Compared with my current youtube effort, the
lines look a bit better, so possibly the better driver of the two.. (There's another can of worms opened! )
Will try to persuade son, Pete to get it onto youtube this weekend.
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Hellfire
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 02:27 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dragon-Performance-Eu
hehehe..............
Those who are comfortable with their own work have no need to show and seek the praise of others.
And those who perceive wrongly, usually end up deleting their posts.
Phil
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 02:37 PM |
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Can any of you tell me what pressures your tyres where getting up to ?
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Hellfire
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| posted on 25/4/08 at 03:10 PM |
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As there were three drivers Andy together with Phil and I trying to gain a decent line in view of our handling problems there would likely be little
consistancy between laps.
Hey - none of us have had any driver training (I have about 20 years ago) and just go along for a laugh and joke with the crowd. Yes, we'd like
to get better and be able to say we could 'compete' (if thats the right word) but we dont profess to being anything other than amatuer
builders who built a website to try to help others.
I seem to be getting a feeling of deja vu about this thread... maybe its the company this thread has attracted!
I hope it doesn't spoil the whole LB forum again...
Steve
[Edited on 25-4-08 by Hellfire]
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