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V8 Exhaust
scootz - 23/11/08 at 05:29 PM

Hypothetically speaking... does anyone have any idea about how a V8 engine would run if each of the 8 exhaust ports was fitted with a short link-pipe (2-3 inches) and an aftermarket (Micron, etc.) bike can?

My engine is a 4200cc and 420bhp, so each can is dealing with 525cc and 52.5bhp... not a lot, so no great concerns about longevity of the silencers.

Just wondering how well it would breathe really.

Only reason I'm asking is that I can do this myself and it will cost / weigh a damn sight less than a bespoke 4-1 system.

Appreciate it's not an 'everyday question' but would welcome any comments!


blakep82 - 23/11/08 at 05:31 PM

8 exhausts?!
or did i get the wrong end of that?


cloudy - 23/11/08 at 05:36 PM

For a start you loose all scavenging, you'll experience a sizeable drop in power...
Plus the cost of all those cans!

James


speedyxjs - 23/11/08 at 05:56 PM

scootz - Thats not the jag engine you were trying to sell a while back is it?


scootz - 23/11/08 at 06:34 PM

Blake... yes (hypothetically speaking)

Cloudy... tell me more about the loss of power theory - this is the stuff I'd like to know about. Noticed a lot of drag cars had short straight pipes directly from the exhaust-ports. PS - Cost of cans is not a problem... I have a supply!

SpeedyXJS... nope - that sold a while back


cloudy - 23/11/08 at 06:35 PM

Exhausts are normally designed so the low pressure area behind the previous cylinders expulsion is used to help draw the exhaust of another cylinder out....


scootz - 23/11/08 at 06:36 PM

Ah... so basically a non-starter then!


C10CoryM - 23/11/08 at 06:45 PM

Most drag cars are boosted which do not require the same level of care when it comes to scavenging. They also make 600 to 6000+hp so other factors are often more important.

Where exactly would you fit 8 mufflers on a locost?


scootz - 23/11/08 at 06:47 PM

I've plenty of room Cory... I'm not building a 7-type.


blakep82 - 23/11/08 at 06:48 PM

you're building 'a thing'
i like how people only see 7's being built lol


scootz - 23/11/08 at 06:55 PM

Indeed... t'was once a Spyder kit - has now mutated into a thing!

Bugger... so, I'm going to have to fork out loads of dosh for 2 custom manifolds!


C10CoryM - 23/11/08 at 07:20 PM

Well you are on a locost forum after all.
For your manifolds you may be able to do what I've done. Buy a cheap, commonly available header kit like this http://www.speedwaymotors.com/SMALL-BLOCK-CHEVY-HEADER-KIT,3843.html
And then make or get flange made up to bolt to your heads. $170 or so and a lot of your own time should get you some nice headers.
Cheers.


scootz - 23/11/08 at 07:30 PM

Cheers Cory!


02GF74 - 23/11/08 at 07:54 PM

^^^ wot they say.

on drag engines, thosethings are running at such high pressures and high rpm that scavenging does not matter, hence the short and individual pipes.


scootz - 24/11/08 at 10:43 AM

Does the compression ratio come into it... the engine I'm using is pretty high at 12.5:1


NS Dev - 24/11/08 at 12:19 PM

no, you really need the scavenging effect on a non forced induction engine

You could stick a supercharger on it and run the 8 cans though!

[Edited on 24/11/08 by NS Dev]


scootz - 24/11/08 at 01:03 PM

Okay dokay... hint taken - 2 manifolds it is!