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Push rod clutch operation type9 gear box
ragindave - 3/6/09 at 06:04 PM

I intend to fit a pedal box to my tiger cat and looks possible to run a direct rod to the clutch arm of the gearbox.
Clutch actuation by pushing the clutch pedal using may be rose joints.
Has anyone attempted this on a kit car.
Cheers any piccys would be good.


blakep82 - 3/6/09 at 06:06 PM

hmm, sounds a good idea if you can do it!


Breaker - 3/6/09 at 06:24 PM

Mmm, if you are planning a direct rod between the pedal and the clutch arm it will become very difficult.

Suppose a normal clutch has a clamping force of 600kg (more or less) and your clutch arm has a 3:1 leverage arm. This means your foot has to press 200kg to engage the clutch

Unless you are a bodybuilder, pressing the clutch will be very difficult


blakep82 - 3/6/09 at 06:28 PM

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Originally posted by Breaker
Mmm, if you are planning a direct rod between the pedal and the clutch arm it will become very difficult.

Suppose a normal clutch has a clamping force of 600kg (more or less) and your clutch arm has a 3:1 leverage arm. This means your foot has to press 200kg to engage the clutch

Unless you are a bodybuilder, pressing the clutch will be very difficult


hydraulic is very different, but think in terms of a cable clutch, you've got the clutch arm and padal ratios to help, but thats all...
in this rod system, all he's doing is replacing the cable with rods?


Breaker - 3/6/09 at 06:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82

hydraulic is very different, but think in terms of a cable clutch, you've got the clutch arm and padal ratios to help, but thats all...
in this rod system, all he's doing is replacing the cable with rods?


Yes, you are right. Forgot about the leverage of the clutch pedal.


big_wasa - 3/6/09 at 06:55 PM

Wyn has done a pull rod clutch

link


Micael - 3/6/09 at 07:01 PM

I have a similar clutch setup as Wyns.

It works lika a charm.


David Jenkins - 3/6/09 at 08:02 PM

Doesn't the fact that the gearbox moves around make life difficult?

At least with a cable, or with hydraulics, there's a flexible link between the pedal and the box.


lsdweb - 3/6/09 at 10:20 PM

quote:

Wyn has done a pull rod clutch

- Yeah, worked a treat - I just wished I'd taken a photo of it with the leak free, class winning Zetec in it, not the earlier leaky Crossflow!

Wyn


coozer - 4/6/09 at 07:50 AM

I intend to retro fit a Wyn type system. Engine doesn't move around too much and the rose joints in the system will be enough slack.

Drilling holes along the pivot bar to adjust the bias will also help set up a nice pedal feel. would be great for a upgraded clutch IMO.

The cable bend is too acute on mine and I reckon may lead to premature failure., and there's no adjuster on it making it a pain to take off. There's also the stop, that can be incorporated into the pivot rather than the pedal box in the footwell that I can't reach.

In fact there's so many advantages I want to do it right now!