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Engine choice help needed
bhp - 10/5/10 at 08:08 AM

Hi im a newbee to the forum, so hi to everyone.

I have a narrow bodied westfield that used to have a lotus twin cam in now removed.

So then what engine would you guys put in it?? it has a type 9 box and would like the ehaust exit on the left (due to the whole already being there.

Im going towards duratec or zetec.

Could anyone advise me on costs and any implications.

Does anyone have an engine for sale at a good price

cheers james

contaminated - 10/5/10 at 08:10 AM

quote:
Originally posted by bhp

Im going towards duratec or zetec.



Hi James. They exit on different sides. Do you mean the left as in the passenger side? If so the Zetec exits on the correct side.

BenB - 10/5/10 at 08:14 AM

A nice Zetec would indeed be a good option. Tunable, cheap and easy to source....

Personally I'd stick a bike engine in it though and lose the type9

cd.thomson - 10/5/10 at 08:18 AM

volvo! i've been reading more and more about them and they're brilliant engines

eddie99 - 10/5/10 at 08:19 AM

If you want to keep the exit on the left hand side and a type 9. Then its only really one option of the zetec

AdamR - 10/5/10 at 08:23 AM

Proper engines have exhausts exiting on BOTH sides.

[Edited on 10/5/10 by AdamR]

cd.thomson - 10/5/10 at 08:25 AM

quote:
Originally posted by eddie99
If you want to keep the exit on the left hand side and a type 9. Then its only really one option of the zetec


Redtop exits on the lhs too

flak monkey - 10/5/10 at 08:34 AM

Duratec, getting a much cheaper option now, even if you have to do some bodywork mods....

bhp - 10/5/10 at 08:36 AM

I have thought about bike engined what sort of money is to be expected on top of the cost of the engine for a bec? If i went down this route i would go for zx10r...

With the zetec what mods need to be done to mount to a type 9 ? and which is the best zetec to go for silver top or black top 1.8 or 2.0 and what year engine. Also is there any issues with immobilisers?

cheers

flak monkey - 10/5/10 at 08:50 AM

If the car is primarily road use dont even consider a bike engine....

Great on the track, but hard work on the road.

matty h - 10/5/10 at 09:46 AM

Redtop vauxhall engine gets my vote are 150bhp standard and with carbs/throttle bodies should see around 180bhp.

MikeRJ - 10/5/10 at 10:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by bhp
With the zetec what mods need to be done to mount to a type 9 ?


Tighten the bolts up!

Well, a little more to it than that as you need to get the correct combination of clutch plate, release bearing and starter motor but the engine itself uses the standard (old) Ford bellhousing bolt pattern so no special bellhousing needed.

big-vee-twin - 10/5/10 at 11:46 AM

Has to be another vote for Duratec, fantastic engine!!

SeanStone - 10/5/10 at 12:10 PM

Yup, I'd go for duratec

Benzine - 10/5/10 at 02:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
volvo! i've been reading more and more about them and they're brilliant engines


exhaust on driver side T_T

Hellfire - 10/5/10 at 07:03 PM

Welcome to the forum. If you're considering going BEC, have a look at the sticky at the top of this section by Worx and put some prices against the bits you'll need besides the actual engine itself.

BEC's are great fun both on and off the track and certainly aren't 'hard work'. Far from it in fact. Clutchless upshifts, sequential gearchanges, light throttle and only as revvy as your right foot.

Phil

flak monkey - 10/5/10 at 07:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
BEC's are great fun both on and off the track and certainly aren't 'hard work'. Far from it in fact. Clutchless upshifts, sequential gearchanges, light throttle and only as revvy as your right foot.

Phil


Yes but I also know several people who have sold BEC's very soon after finishing them because they weren't what they were expecting from a road car.

They are just so tiresome on a long journey. I have driven both on and off the track and I'll stick with what I have got. Its the 7000rpm cruising that gets you. And they are hard work to drive fast, lots more gear changes around the twisties to keep the revs up due to the lack of torque low down the rev range.

The best advice is have a ride out in a BEC if you are thinking of going that way. You'll be impressed by the performance, but do consider the driveability too.

Hellfire - 10/5/10 at 07:36 PM

I reckon I know a lot more that have gone from CEC's to BEC's, never to look back again If you want effortless driving and fewer gearchanges get an automatic.........

Having driven both CEC and BEC, I would never change from a BEC. I will agree on one thing though and that is to get a ride in a BEC if you're thinking of going down that route. See what you're missing

Phil

flak monkey - 10/5/10 at 07:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
I reckon I know a lot more that have gone from CEC's to BEC's, never to look back again If you want effortless driving and fewer gearchanges get an automatic.........


You would. You just never had a ride in a good CEC

bhp - 12/5/10 at 07:20 AM

Thanks for the advice guys I think im going to go zetec. Cheaper and reliable.

Does anyone an engine for sale pref with carbs. I do have a friend who has a 1.8 out of the rs fiesta that i can use but need loom and ecu. I would prefer to run carbs on it though.

Does the water pump need modding on these or are the 1.8 ok. Also what would need to be done to mate it to a type 9 box. Does the fly wheel need modding.

Cheers james