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jacko - 26/6/10 at 07:40 PM

If the probe engine is Mazda based will it fit a mx5 gearbox?


clairetoo - 26/6/10 at 07:45 PM

Not sure if the probe engine (2l) is mazda based - after all , the V6 in the probe was made in Michigan
And from what I have read on various forum's , the 2 litre is not a great engine.................


fha772 - 26/6/10 at 07:51 PM

I'm not sure, but do remember that the 1.8 V6 out of the mx-3 was meant to be a direct bolt on to the mk1 mx-5 box.
I think the Probe's 2.5 v6 is the same family of engines as the 1.8, so I can't see why not.
I'll ask some of my mates stateside who tune Miatas(mx-5's), they know a hell of alot about them.


dave-69isit - 26/6/10 at 07:57 PM

have u seen wots in clairetoo car
mazda v6 mated to mx5 ask her


clairetoo - 26/6/10 at 08:03 PM

The Mx5 box will go straight on the KL V6 - clutch splines are the same , the release bearing is in the right place - perfect...............except not one bolt lines up , and theres nowhere to put the starter motor !


BigFaceDave - 26/6/10 at 08:51 PM

The 2.5 engine was a mazda engine out of the MX6 and where not a especially good engine and I know parts where extremly expensive (£1800 for a exhaust so i'm told! ) and the 2.0 didnt have much go in them.


clairetoo - 26/6/10 at 09:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by BigFaceDave
The 2.5 engine was a mazda engine out of the MX6 and where not a especially good engine and I know parts where extremly expensive (£1800 for a exhaust so i'm told! ) and the 2.0 didnt have much go in them.

Um.................I somewhat dispute the claim that they were `not a especially good engine ' !
200 bhp and 8000 rpm for £100 , with a cracking exhaust note , as well as japanese reliability from a quad cam 24 valve V6 that weighs less than a pinto...................

[Edited on 26/6/10 by clairetoo]


prawnabie - 26/6/10 at 09:53 PM

isnt the bottom end steel too?


clairetoo - 26/6/10 at 09:57 PM

Yep - steel crank and rods
There was a twin turbo race car in Australia with a KL based twin turbo motor - stock crank and block , that made 800 BHP !


fha772 - 26/6/10 at 10:03 PM

I always fancied fitting 1 in a MX-5.

Put that engine in a car it deserves, i think 99% of the bad press is due to the sh!7box Ford it's fitted in.


clairetoo - 26/6/10 at 10:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fha772
I always fancied fitting 1 in a MX-5.

Put that engine in a car it deserves, i think 99% of the bad press is due to the sh!7box Ford it's fitted in.

I've been helping do just that - and it fit's like it grew there
Dont forget the same engine is allso in the Mazda 626 , Mx6 , 323 (in 2litre form) and Mx3 (as a 1.8)


bj928 - 26/6/10 at 11:10 PM

if i built a MX5 with some go it would have to be a V8, buy the kits from America and it just bolts in http://www.monstermiata.com/


omega0684 - 27/6/10 at 07:14 AM

quote:
Originally posted by clairetoo
quote:
Originally posted by BigFaceDave
The 2.5 engine was a mazda engine out of the MX6 and where not a especially good engine and I know parts where extremly expensive (£1800 for a exhaust so i'm told! ) and the 2.0 didnt have much go in them.

Um.................I somewhat dispute the claim that they were `not a especially good engine ' !
200 bhp and 8000 rpm for £100 , with a cracking exhaust note , as well as japanese reliability from a quad cam 24 valve V6 that weighs less than a pinto...................

[Edited on 26/6/10 by clairetoo]


The lady knows here stuff Dave & i've been out in her death trap!

TRUST ME ITS AWESOME


fha772 - 27/6/10 at 09:01 AM

quote:
Originally posted by bj928
if i built a MX5 with some go it would have to be a V8, buy the kits from America and it just bolts in http://www.monstermiata.com/


YAWN!!!

Why do so many people go for the "Stick a V8 in it!!" approach.
And then say"Just buy a bolt-in kit", where's the fun in building that?
The whole point of buil;ding a car is to let your imagination run wild and build something you want and is original.
So, if there's a bolt-in kit, it's not that original, is it?
My dad and I, did once measure a friends MX-5 up to see if a V8 would fit, but it was a Bentley Turbo R engine, with aBorg-Warner T56 6-speed Corvette box fitted
So it was a little original, but we could only make it fit, if we band sawed the car down the middle and added at least 3" to the wideth(which we did consider doing!!)


BigFaceDave - 27/6/10 at 11:18 AM



Um.................I somewhat dispute the claim that they were `not a especially good engine ' !
200 bhp and 8000 rpm for £100 , with a cracking exhaust note , as well as japanese reliability from a quad cam 24 valve V6 that weighs less than a pinto...................

[Edited on 26/6/10 by clairetoo]



I take it all back then! I was just going on experiences of someone that I work with who had one and was regually going wrong! but im more than happy to be corrected!


bj928 - 29/6/10 at 12:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by fha772
quote:
Originally posted by bj928
if i built a MX5 with some go it would have to be a V8, buy the kits from America and it just bolts in http://www.monstermiata.com/


YAWN!!!

Why do so many people go for the "Stick a V8 in it!!" approach.
And then say"Just buy a bolt-in kit", where's the fun in building that?
The whole point of buil;ding a car is to let your imagination run wild and build something you want and is original.
So, if there's a bolt-in kit, it's not that original, is it?
My dad and I, did once measure a friends MX-5 up to see if a V8 would fit, but it was a Bentley Turbo R engine, with aBorg-Warner T56 6-speed Corvette box fitted
So it was a little original, but we could only make it fit, if we band sawed the car down the middle and added at least 3" to the wideth(which we did consider doing!!)


i think i know about original, who else is fitting a dodge viper v10 in a 7 replica, i just like the idea of a kit to fit a v8 in an MX5


fha772 - 29/6/10 at 07:00 AM

Sorry, spent too long in California, in my early driving year.
It's amazingly common to have a Lil' Monster Miata, or similar conversion kit.

I do like your V10 se7en, I can't wait to see it in the flesh at some point.


Vindi_andy - 29/6/10 at 12:21 PM

I keeop getting tempted by one of claires conversions to drop in Tango then the mrs hears my thoughts and slaps me down again.

One day there will be a sweeeet little mazda V6 mated to an MX5 box in a car I build


iti_uk - 29/6/10 at 10:36 PM

Yes, V8 MX5s are ten-a-penny over the pond.

You can fit all sorts in the MX5 chassis, with only *minor* chopping...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZLnrOeu0KE

So, clairetoo... I hear these Mazda V6 engines are awful boat anchors. Has anyone ever used one in a kit car or an engine swap? Surely, only being available as a FWD layout, they won't work in a RWD car...

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