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what was that thing called?
Mr Whippy - 7/8/12 at 12:54 PM

A while back I saw a cylinder that filled with oil when your engine was running and then (I think there was a sping in it) when you went to start the engine the oil flowed back into the engine giving you full oil pressure before you started so it help reduce engine wear

Anyone know of it?

Thanks


loggyboy - 7/8/12 at 01:05 PM

? http://www.oilamatic.com/engine-tlc.htm


jeffw - 7/8/12 at 01:07 PM

Accusump..


hughpinder - 7/8/12 at 01:09 PM

accusump: Manual or electric oil release - not cheap though!

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorsport/oil-pumps-pressure-accumulators/accusump-manual-oil-pressure-accumulators

Regards
Hugh


SteveWalker - 7/8/12 at 05:13 PM

I wonder if a small central heating type expansion vessel, solenoid valve and maybe a non-return valve and and home-made orifice would do the job? Non-return valve and orifice lets the vessel fill while the engine is running and turning the ignition to the crank position opens the solenoid, waits a few seconds and then energises the starter?

Alternatively a normal car oil pump and electric motor arrangement should be easy enough to DIY cheaply.

On the other hand, when I used to have a Sierra, I stripped down the engine at 100,000 miles and found virtually no wear. How many starts are you likely to do and is wear really going to be a problem?


britishtrident - 7/8/12 at 06:11 PM

Modern oils give so much more protection from cold starts it isn't worthwhile.

If I was going to fit to prolong engine life it would be either a pre-heater in either the sump or cooling system..


bi22le - 7/8/12 at 06:16 PM

Yup, accusump.

They are simple in principle and I would of thought you could make your own. I have one on my car with manual valve.

It actually robs pressure at first start because the oil pressure is used to fill the accusump, thats why I want to get a 12V solenoid for it.

They are really expesive although the thread must be pretty standard. Does anyboy know what thread it is and where to get a cheap electriv 12V powered valve?

Ill start another post maybe!!

Either way an accusump is essentially a cylinder with a piston in it. Its sealed at one end that has a spring between the sealed end and piston, there is also a pressure gauge at this end to indicate pressure inside the accusump. Other end just has a threaded male thread to join onto and a emergency high pressure release valve set to 150PSI I think. So it dont explode if there are issues!!


MikeRJ - 7/8/12 at 06:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Modern oils give so much more protection from cold starts it isn't worthwhile.



The Accusump's primary job is as a cheap alternative to a dry sump to avoid oil surge problems, rather to to provide start-up protection.


coyoteboy - 7/8/12 at 06:49 PM

Indeed, cheap drysump with some issues of "over-filling" if you use a shortened sump and the standard amount of oil. CAnt imagine using it as start-up protection but I suppose it would work. With a 12v solenoid valve it could be set to activate only when cranking or when running.

We made one by boring out an alu tube, turning a piston and using 3 o-rings and a screw-in tyre valve at the top. Seems to work a treat.


britishtrident - 7/8/12 at 07:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Modern oils give so much more protection from cold starts it isn't worthwhile.



The Accusump's primary job is as a cheap alternative to a dry sump to avoid oil surge problems, rather to to provide start-up protection.



The OP wants it for start up cover.


owelly - 7/8/12 at 07:59 PM

Do you really need a piston? Tube with a welded top and the fittings on the bottom so there is an air gap at the top....?


MikeRJ - 8/8/12 at 07:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by owelly
Do you really need a piston? Tube with a welded top and the fittings on the bottom so there is an air gap at the top....?


You won't get much oil in it unless it's got a huge airspace - and when the oil runs out it will start pushing air through which isn't great.