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Ford 1L EcoBoost
Stevie_P - 29/11/16 at 03:04 PM

Just wondering if anyone had tried fitting one of these to an MK or similar?
Maybe a bit of a weird choice but seem to be easily tunable to 150BHP +, I guess are reasonable weight but not sure about the height on them.
I think they're a long stroke motor so may not fit in?
Other half has one in her Focus and it seems nippy enough with good fuel economy and given Caterham have fitted something similar thought it would be worth an ask.

Awaiting the flaming...

Steve


loggyboy - 29/11/16 at 03:11 PM

Still fairly new and expensive, and management is often a hidden cost - certainly compared to 'off the shelf' ways of getting 150hp.
I think the 1.6 would be a more attractive option.


gremlin1234 - 29/11/16 at 03:15 PM

I think the engine is quite tall.
ps it seems to weigh about 100kg with ancillaries (probably without gearbox)

ford fitted it to a formula ford car and did the ring
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_XGroZP9Gk


Ugg10 - 29/11/16 at 03:36 PM

The 1.0l is probably better suited to a midi style car, as said not too light (iron block iirc) and although it has a small footprint it is pretty tall. 1.6l ecoboost is getting quite a bit of traction at the moment and ecu prices for the direct injection system are starting to reduce a bit. This engine is good for 300hp on stock internals with a turbo change and a decent exhaust (and ecu anfpt tuning obviously) and is all alloy I think so reasonably light.


Sam_68 - 29/11/16 at 07:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by gremlin1234
I think the engine is quite tall.


Yup, it's bloody tall (I think I may still have the CAD files from Ford kicking about somewhere, if I haven't deleted them, but it was ridiculous), and yes, still quite expensive when you take into account engine management.

The Caterham got very mixed reviews, to say the least - the torque-baised nature of the engine (designed to pull tall gearing, for economy) was felt to be at odds with a 'Seven', where most people like revvy, slightly peaky engines to make it feel as though the car is being worked a bit when driven fast.


gremlin1234 - 29/11/16 at 07:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sam_68
Yup, it's bloody tall (I think I may still have the CAD files from Ford kicking about somewhere, if I haven't deleted them, but it was ridiculous),
if you do still have them, could I have a copy please.
ps got a 3yr old bmax 1L a month ago


sdh2903 - 29/11/16 at 07:54 PM

As previously said the 1.6 is the one to go for. It's alloy so lighter than the 1.0. Sigma bellhousing and sumps fit. The turbo is in a slightly awkward place but can be worked around. The ecus are the downside but are starting to come down in price. I'm fitting a 2.0 but that's a big bugger n all.


Sam_68 - 29/11/16 at 09:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by gremlin1234
if you do still have them, could I have a copy please.



I've just checked, and yes, I've still got the file as a .dwg

If you U2U me your email address, I'll send you a dropbox link, when I get round to it.

Be aware that you'll need a serious CAD workstation to open and manipulate it, however - the CAD file for the engine alone is 192Mb


phongshader - 24/1/17 at 07:42 PM

quote:
Yup, it's bloody tall (I think I may still have the CAD files from Ford kicking about somewhere, if I haven't deleted them, but it was ridiculous)

Can you give dimensions? Height, width, length?


bi22le - 24/1/17 at 10:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Sam_68
quote:
Originally posted by gremlin1234
if you do still have them, could I have a copy please.



I've just checked, and yes, I've still got the file as a .dwg

If you U2U me your email address, I'll send you a dropbox link, when I get round to it.

Be aware that you'll need a serious CAD workstation to open and manipulate it, however - the CAD file for the engine alone is 192Mb


A dwg file is a drawing file? Also 192mb file suggests that you have the whole engine as an assembly. Depending on the software you are using you can save the assembly as a single part which would greatly reduce its size.