
I´ve got a standard 2.0i 100bhp pinto in my Indy now, but I wan´t to have something more fun under the bonnet
So my question is. Should I tune the Pinto or can I replace it with a Cosworth engine?
The thing is that I don´t know anything about the 4 cylinder Cosworth engine.
- Will I need to make new engine mounts?
- Is the exhaust on the same side as the Pinto?
- Does it fit my Type9 gearbox?
- Anyone have the measures of the engine (wxhxd)?
and so on.....
[Edited on 27-5-05 by Jonte]
I think the bottom ends externally are pretty similar, and I seem to recall that its actually possible to put a Cossie head on a Pinto block, although
Im not sure how easy that is. Have a google for "Pintworth" which is what they seem to be nicknamed 
On second thoughts forget google as it comes up with precisely zero, although there's some stuff on the WSCC about it
here
Chris
[Edited on 27/5/05 by ChrisGamlin]
are you thinking naturally aspirated or turbo?
a n/a will fit to a type 9, though for big power you'd need to fit a quaife kit. a turbo engine will require a t5 box to take the torque. n/a
heads can be put on a pinto block, but best starting with a good 205 block i've heard, also bear in mind if the head is off a turbo engine it may
need port work and cams to make it suitable to run n/a.
Ned.
As far as I know, the Cosworth YB engine (from the Sierra and Escort) was based on the 205 pinto block, so it should be a perfect fit, bear in mind
you will have a turbo to fit in there (unless you go NA) as well as the fuel injection gubbins but you should be fine.
You will want a T5 gearbox as well, I imagine the Cossie will melt a standard Type 9 in fairly short order.
Cheers,
Ed
I've got a pinto turbo manifold to fit a garrett t3 if you're interested? Its about to go on ebay but if you're interested....?
Geoff
The exhaust is on the drivers side of the engine. I don't know how that compares to a Pinto. I agree with Ned / ethomas about the gearbox you
will need the T5 and compared to a T9 they are huge. I had to modify my tunnel to get one in. I can get you some measurements over the weekend if
you like ( Engine and Gearbox )
Andy...
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The exhaust is on the drivers side of the engine
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are you thinking naturally aspirated or turbo
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as well as the fuel injection gubbins but you should be fine
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I can get you some measurements over the weekend if you like ( Engine and Gearbox )
for a naturally aspirated engien i'd stick with the type9 box, will save a lot of hassle of trying to fit a t5.
depending on he power output you may need to add a quaife or tran-x kit to uprate the internals, but afaik a n/a cosworth will make similar power to a
tuned vauxhall xe, so should cope fine with a straight cut type9 gearbox.
Ned.
yep Ned, you are quite right.
I dont know what a cossie would cost you but there are options for a Pinto. Read this thread
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=23342
Dave talks of highly of a 2.2 pinto. Compares it favourably to a Zetec. Not a fortune for the work. Depends on the regs in your country tho' if
you are allowed to modify engines or if you have to fit stock std lumps.
Why not fit the MT75 box? Yes its bigger than a Type 9, but has better ratios and can handle a lot more power, and if you get the right box it comes with a remote lever so you can put it where you want.
Tune the pinto - It's a hell of a lot easier than fitting a cosworth head. you can get some good power and still be reliable for a lot less cost
and hassle.
In my humble opinion of course
Cheers
Mark
What about building a ZVH Zetec bottom with CVH heads. Or go for a 2.0/1.8 zetec with fuel injection.
Having raced and built cossies and pinto power cars for years. Its no just as easy as popping a cossie head on a pinto block.
If your just putting on a blower and cossie head on a pinto block, theres compression - valve pockets in pistons - fueling - intercooling wiring and
much more.
As for n/a to get good power your need reprofiled cams, redisgened combustion chambers, up the crompression, 48 or 50 to make decent power.
Ive had 290bhp from a na cossie but with a heavy bill at the end. Should of left the turbo on.
Pinto have a cast block and cossie have the same but with thicker walls (205 block)
4x4 Cossies have a even thicker block (200 block)
Jonte,
Have you considered a Duratec?
I fitted a 2.3 in my Indy mated to a heavy duty quaife close ratio type 9 box.
They are a relatively light engine. My Indy weighed in at 600kg at SVA with a pinto.
Last night when I checked the corner weights using Ikea bathroom scales, slightly round the clock, it weighed in at 533kg with just a couple of
gallons of fuel down from SVA conditions.
Oh, and with throttle bodies you should see a bit more than 100bhp
Cheers,
Colin