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51mm / 2 inch hose...
nre - 7/2/06 at 10:00 AM

I'm after approx 200mm of hose with ID of 51mm. I could use fuel filler hose, but by the time I've paid for postage from the usual places (demon thieves, burton, rally design, merlin...) I'm looking at the best part of 15 quid which seems silly. I don't need the hose to be fuel resistant, it's just to hold the trumpets on my GSXR750 TBs...

So, any bright ideas for where I might get some 51mm hose locally? I've been trying to think laterally, but haven't had any bright ideas yet, but you resourceful chaps must be able to help

Cheers,

Neil


muzchap - 7/2/06 at 10:12 AM

Neil - I'm reading this with interest - I'm in the same prediciment as you :-)

Demon Thieves etc... £15 is shocking!

M


tul214 - 7/2/06 at 10:25 AM

If one of you buys this and shares it it will work out cheaper!! NTDWM.http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Blue-silicon-hose-51mm_W0QQitemZ8036520568QQcategoryZ72205QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


muzchap - 7/2/06 at 10:33 AM

Cheers - but its an auction.

Could end up paying loads for it - what we need is a cheap supplier


NS Dev - 7/2/06 at 10:41 AM

Give your local hydraulics specialist a call (yellow pages search) and try and get some 2" suction hose (feed hose)


timf - 7/2/06 at 10:45 AM

try here they make it and sell direct


stevebubs - 7/2/06 at 10:45 AM

Guys,

Locations would be good.


muzchap - 7/2/06 at 10:47 AM

Location of us? or supplier? :-)

I'm in Pete-bog-horror - or Peterborough as they like to call it...

I don't have 6 fingers, but I did move here from London

I also work in Leamington Spa

WOULD ANYBODY BE INTERESTED IN A GROUP BUY? I'LL EMAIL COMPANY AND ASK THEM?

I think 1/2 metre would be more than sufficient for the mounting of TB's


[Edited on 7/2/06 by muzchap]


nre - 7/2/06 at 10:51 AM

quote:
Originally posted by stevebubs
Guys,

Locations would be good.


Warwick for me!


02GF74 - 7/2/06 at 11:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by nre
I'm after approx 200mm of hose with ID of 51mm.

I don't need the hose to be fuel resistant, it's just to hold the trumpets on my GSXR750 TBs...

So, any bright ideas for where I might get some 51mm hose locally? I've been trying to think laterally, but haven't had any bright ideas yet, but you resourceful chaps must be able to help



right, first you mention that thge hose does not need to be petrol resistant and then you say it will be fitted to carbs? Pray, tell me what do your carbs run on? Petrol perhaps? hmmmm.

some ideas
I am not sure what it is you are tyring to do but do you need it to be fleixble - what about some 2 inch platsic pipe - drain/waste pipe from b&Q?

Or maybe B&Q do flexible 2 inch joiner hoses?

Or how about a gardening/exotic fish place for garden pond pipe? It is flexible pvc stuff that is transparent; and you can buy by the meter?

Maybe you can find a car/tracktor/lorry with 2 inch cooling system and use a hose for that?


stevebubs - 7/2/06 at 11:09 AM

try Think Auto - www.thinkauto.com - prices seem a little better to me.

If you were local to me, then I probably could have arranged for stuff from merlin as theu guy who sits next to me lives round the corner....


nre - 7/2/06 at 11:12 AM

quote:


right, first you mention that thge hose does not need to be petrol resistant and then you say it will be fitted to carbs? Pray, tell me what do your carbs run on? Petrol perhaps? hmmmm.




Well in my case I just want to attach trumpets to the TBs. The fuel is therefore not going to be in contact with the hose... not unless something is very wrong!

The hose needs to be slightly flexible as it will be tightened with jubilee style hose clips...

I take on board suggestions re garden centres and suchlike, certainly worth a try...

Steve- thanks for the offer, I'll be passing Merlin next week, so that is an option...

Typically, I ordered some stuff from Think a couple of weeks back, isn't it always the way...

Cheers,

Neil

[Edited on 7/2/06 by nre]


RichieC - 7/2/06 at 12:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
quote:
Originally posted by nre
I'm after approx 200mm of hose with ID of 51mm.

I don't need the hose to be fuel resistant, it's just to hold the trumpets on my GSXR750 TBs...

So, any bright ideas for where I might get some 51mm hose locally? I've been trying to think laterally, but haven't had any bright ideas yet, but you resourceful chaps must be able to help



right, first you mention that thge hose does not need to be petrol resistant and then you say it will be fitted to carbs? Pray, tell me what do your carbs run on? Petrol perhaps? hmmmm.



I guess his trumpets will run on air mostly as opposed to petrol


muzchap - 7/2/06 at 12:27 PM

The trumpets do run on air!

The injector is past the trumpets, therefore there will be no petrol on the cold air side.

The pipes from the throttle bodies to the manifold contain Petrol/Air - so these need to be fuel resistant.

But for SVA Man - probably best if everything is fuel resistant :-)

Cheers,

Murray


RichieC - 7/2/06 at 12:30 PM

erm I know mate, I was being flippant

Ill have a look through the SVA manual now but I cant see any reason theyd want fuel resistant hose on the intake side.


muzchap - 7/2/06 at 12:44 PM

I know you were being flippant - I was merely backing your flippant comment up.

It seems

Flippant1+Flippant2 = not so flippin flippant

If you could double O checko that would be great :-)

I might do it for conistency :-)

M


NS Dev - 7/2/06 at 01:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
Give your local hydraulics specialist a call (yellow pages search) and try and get some 2" suction hose (feed hose)


Quoting my own post back again!

if you call your local hydraulics place and ask for "grifflex" hose in 2" they will sell you whatever you need.

Near me I use nuneaton hose and fittings, surprisingly enough in nuneaton, they will cut off whatever you need, and cheap as chips.

I use plain single wire hydraulic hose from them for oil coolers etc, with std hyd fittings, much cheaper than all this motorsport buffoonery!

for anybody local:

Nuneaton Hose & Fittings Ltd
024 7634 5982
Unit 4 Liberty Way
Nuneaton, CV11 6RZ


[Edited on 7/2/06 by NS Dev]


MikeR - 7/2/06 at 01:26 PM

and if they won't post they are right next door (according to multimap) to my gym.


02GF74 - 7/2/06 at 01:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by muzchap
The trumpets do run on air!




I am aware of that and wasn't being flippant.

So your engine will never ever back fire?

and what happens when the engine stops? Will there not be be petrol/air mixture inside the throttlebodies, some of it will escape? Over time the hoses will get some contact with petrol. Whether that amount is a significant, I cannot say.


David Jenkins - 7/2/06 at 01:35 PM

Petrol vapour will be a concern - maybe not a safety thing, but rubber tubing that's swollen up and cracked won't look pretty...

DJ


muzchap - 7/2/06 at 01:55 PM

Hehe this is a discussion thread now

Ok - the metal trumpets, sit in the metal throttle bodies - they are pretty airtight.

The rubber hose connects on the outside of this - via a couple of jubilee clips (or has anybody better suggestions).

I understand that it 'might' backfire and there 'might' be some vapour when switched off... but no more than that which 'might' leak onto the 'cooling' hoses which are close by.

I 'personally' will be looking to use the same hose for both parts - cold air and engine side - for appearances sake

I think in the end we'll be going for a group buy - we already have a need for 1 metres worth.

Anybody else coming in? :-)


David Jenkins - 7/2/06 at 01:59 PM

Yep - if the metal bits are tight fit then the type of rubber is less likely to be an issue. Any of the usual car-type hoses should be fine, as they would be unlikely to get anything worse than the usual under-bonnet fumes.

DJ


MikeRJ - 7/2/06 at 02:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by muzchap
The trumpets do run on air!

The injector is past the trumpets, therefore there will be no petrol on the cold air side.


I guess your Zetec is running stock cams? "Stand off" from long duration/high lift cams means quite a lot of fuel can hang around in the trumpets....


muzchap - 7/2/06 at 03:16 PM

Cheers guys - was unaware of that particular Zetec trait

I'm trying for the longest trumpets I can find 130mm at the moment...

I'll give the guys NS Dev mentioned a ring - see what they say


muzchap - 7/2/06 at 03:34 PM

OK HERE's the PRICES

They do 48mm Internal Diameter black pipe @ £13.80 per metre

They do 51mm Internal Diameter black pipe @ £14.30 per metre

Oh this is not Grifflex, this is Radiator Hose.


They can deliver, and minimum length is 1 metre.

Therefore if we want to buy bulk we'll need even numbers as 0.5 metres to fit them should be more than adequate.

Cheers,

Murray


[Edited on 7/2/06 by muzchap]


paulf - 7/2/06 at 08:20 PM

I use Corby hose and hydraulics in geddington road Corby.
I bought a meter of 38mm id rubber hose for my throttle body mountings and paid £7 for it. It is rubber but was told it would be ok for my application , even if it degrades it is cheap enough to replace when needed. I dont believe silicon is any more petrol resistant and maybe less so than some rubber.
Paul.

Worth a try as on your route between Peterboro and Leamington.
Paul

quote:
Originally posted by muzchap
OK HERE's the PRICES

They do 48mm Internal Diameter black pipe @ £13.80 per metre

They do 51mm Internal Diameter black pipe @ £14.30 per metre

Oh this is not Grifflex, this is Radiator Hose.


They can deliver, and minimum length is 1 metre.

Therefore if we want to buy bulk we'll need even numbers as 0.5 metres to fit them should be more than adequate.

Cheers,

Murray


[Edited on 7/2/06 by muzchap]


muzchap - 8/2/06 at 08:15 AM

Cheers Paul :-)

Yeah used to frequent Corby, had a girlfriend there

She used to hold up the umbrellas at motorbike races... 5ft 2, size 8 and 32DD

I constantly ask myself why did I end it? :-(


Chris_G - 6/3/06 at 02:30 PM

Murray,
did you ever get this sorted? I'm about to be in exactly the same position with my GSXR T/B's. What did you end up using or is you bulk buy idea still in limbo?

Cheers
Chris

quote:
Originally posted by muzchap
OK HERE's the PRICES

They do 48mm Internal Diameter black pipe @ £13.80 per metre

They do 51mm Internal Diameter black pipe @ £14.30 per metre

Oh this is not Grifflex, this is Radiator Hose.


They can deliver, and minimum length is 1 metre.

Therefore if we want to buy bulk we'll need even numbers as 0.5 metres to fit them should be more than adequate.

Cheers,

Murray


[Edited on 7/2/06 by muzchap]


muzchap - 6/3/06 at 02:48 PM

check your U2U ;-)


Volvorsport - 6/3/06 at 07:14 PM

if you go round all the six cylinder 960 volvos in scrap yards , thats exactly how all the manifolds are held on , and its 2 inch .

or you can try and contact PDM hose , they were my silicone hose supplier before i switched codes