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Glowing headers!!!
Ham - 25/7/06 at 06:30 AM

After work last night I was flushing the cooling system which requires the engine to run at a fast idle for around 10 minutes, The car was outside (just to keep the neighbours happy!!!) and I noticed that the stainless headers were glowing red!! excuse my ignorance but is this normal? or is it weak mixture/advanced timing?
X-Flow BTW.


RazMan - 25/7/06 at 07:08 AM

This happens with my V6 at tickover too! I suspect my mapping is waaaay out though so it might be an idea to have a closer look and book a rolling road session.


mookaloid - 25/7/06 at 07:40 AM

It can mean that your ignition timing is too retarded - combustion is taking place as the exhaust valves are opening causing excess heat to get into the manifold

cheers

Mark


Ham - 25/7/06 at 09:58 AM

Cheers guys, any idea what the starting point is for ignition timing, currently I have it set at 12 deg before TDC at 1000RPM, I have noticed no pinking and am of the opinion that the ideal setting is pinking less a touch? Maybe it needs advancing?
Head is gas flowed,275 cam, everything lightened and balanced, electronic dizzy with modified springs still with vac advance

Any ideas?


mookaloid - 25/7/06 at 10:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Ham
the opinion that the ideal setting is pinking less a touch?


I share that opinion


NS Dev - 25/7/06 at 11:43 AM

so do I and also the designers of all modern engine management systems, they close the ignition timing control loop with a knock sensor.

Decent rolling road operators use a bosch knock sensor removed from a production engine that used a system such as motronic, then connect it to a small audio amplifier and a set of headphones, then they can hear pinking on noisy cars under load on the rolling road.


caber - 25/7/06 at 04:50 PM

That sounds a cool idea and presumably can be set up to work on the road as well! any suggestions on how to source a knock sensor and what sort of amp to use?

Caber


TangoMan - 25/7/06 at 05:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by NS Dev
so do I and also the designers of all modern engine management systems, they close the ignition timing control loop with a knock sensor.

Decent rolling road operators use a bosch knock sensor removed from a production engine that used a system such as motronic, then connect it to a small audio amplifier and a set of headphones, then they can hear pinking on noisy cars under load on the rolling road.


I like the sound of that. How easy would it be to rig up at home. It would be ideal for setting up my Megajolt.