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Mitsubushi Pajero
coozer - 11/9/06 at 07:37 PM

Anyone considered using the 2.5/8 Litre turbo diesel engine and box in Locost.

Pajero or Hilux engine boxes?? Ramp the turbo pressure up and I'm sure 200bhp would be available. Plus the huge amount of torque...

Smoking the tyres in every gear??


Simon - 11/9/06 at 07:41 PM

The diesel debate has gone on for a while now

I'm guessing, but would think the engine/box in a Pajeiro would weigh best part of 250kgs.

That alone should put you off, let alone the racket it'll make, the incredibly noxious fumes you'll breathe, and the fact that everyone will laugh at you

If you wanna go weasel, at least use a modern one from the latest golf etc etc!

ATB

Simon

[Edited on 11/9/06 by Simon]


JoelP - 11/9/06 at 08:17 PM

was i just dreaming or are the newest golf gttdi's producing 170bhp?


tks - 11/9/06 at 08:52 PM

or be different

Mount a 1.4 Turbo engine wich also produces 170BHP!!! 4 POT car engine...

almost busa power then... (albeit with turbo)

Tks

p.s. to be fast you need revs!! everything wich is fast has revs!!!

with only 4000rpm you won't have much choice on speeds..

[Edited on 11/9/06 by tks]


Danozeman - 11/9/06 at 09:18 PM

quote:

was i just dreaming or are the newest golf gttdi's producing 170bhp?



Yep thats true.

Id use a Vag diesel if i was building one. May use the V6 tdi they do. Or the V10 out of vw toureg tdi.


Simon - 11/9/06 at 10:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tks
or be different

Mount a 1.4 Turbo engine wich also produces 170BHP!!! 4 POT car engine...

almost busa power then... (albeit with turbo)

Tks

p.s. to be fast you need revs!! everything wich is fast has revs!!!

with only 4000rpm you won't have much choice on speeds..

[Edited on 11/9/06 by tks]


Not strictly true

If you have enough torque, which most diesels have in abundance apparently, then you can have quite a quick car.

A diesel may have a flat torque curve, but it'll be very long (as a %age of available revs), which means gearing can be very long!

ATB

Simon


DarrenW - 12/9/06 at 10:05 AM

Shogun donor idea sounds great. You could also graft in the 4wd system and go trialling.


Ive seen these engine and boxes out of the cars and they look way to hooooge for a se7en. Looks can be deceptive though - what are the sizes and weights?


andyharding - 12/9/06 at 10:44 AM

I'm thinking of buying a Pajero and test drove a 2.5L TD. Sluggish would be an understatement.


NS Dev - 12/9/06 at 11:41 AM

just put in a Vauxhall XE..... (or, dare I say it before hellfire does, a bike engine)

both will make the same power, and the XE will be half the weight, the bike engine prob less than a third!

The extra torque is largely irrelevant as you won't be able to put it on the road with the short rev range and consequent poor torque spread available!


caber - 12/9/06 at 12:29 PM

If you can get a good diseasal that doesn't weigh too much, forget the gearbox and just bolt on a Torque Converter and a high ratio rear axle and no reason the car won't be fast! No gearbox weight or losses no losses from missed gearchanges, this worked for Chapparal can-am cars in the 70s running monster torque V-8s that didn't rev that high.

Next thing is to get it running with chip oil and a propane injection set up this is the diesel equivqlent of nitrous! Too fast for the customs man to catch you and dip the tank :-) and doesn't smell so bad either though it may make you permanently hungry!

Caber